RIGHT! No more SFF PCs for me!!

[Prodigy]

Ah well, maybe some people have their Shuttles in very cold rooms?

Either way, I touched the heatsink on my 9800 pro after hardly any gaming and it was literally burning hot. Too hot to kep your finger there, so was the ram. That's some serious heat. I had a blow hole on the top, a noiseblocker S3 at full whack at the rear and a SilentX PSU. Without the case on it's about 15C cooler all round than it was with it on.

Shame it looks pig ugly like that though

I used to sing the praises of Shuttles and I do think they're extremely well made. Maybe not for gaming though.

[^^Gord^^]

The room can get up to 26c with help from my house mates two PCs

Usually around low 20s.

[Jimmy Little]

its not just the heat in the case it's the heat of the conponets, that can be dangerious, the ram and the gcard, just don't have room to breathe

[^^Gord^^]

The components inside the case are what heat the case up. My case is always sub 40C. Considering I have a CPU that is up to 55C, a GFX up to almost 70c and the HD must be around 60C then the other compnents that don't have thermal monitors can't be getting that hot.

Virtually all computer components can operate at temps way beyond what they get run at in this country (remember the same kit has to run in countries like Saudi where the ambient room temp is a lot higher than the UK).

[Gunbuster]

Depends what layout the SFF uses, my Soltek has the AGP on the outer edge with a grill punched into the panel so the GPU gets air directly from outside the case, it also has a huge system fan as well as the PSU fan. Writing off all SFFs becuase a single make and model is a little extreme, but I can see where you are coming from. Then again I have a passively cooled 9600XT in mine, but I use speedfan to manage my case and CPU fan speeds.

[Jimmy Little]

yeah i'm gonna mod my shuttle case when my gcard comes back from the RMA