Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 30

Thread: Socket 939 Mobos + Winchester 90nm CPUs

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    792
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    9 times in 9 posts

    Socket 939 Mobos + Winchester 90nm CPUs

    Does anyone know any retailers that will pre-flash bios on the socket 939 boards as typically they will not support the new 90nm winchester A64 Cpus out of the box (well not current stock anyhow)

    Thanks in advance.


  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Midlands
    Posts
    8,629
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    268 times in 188 posts
    I've looked into this a bit, as far as I can tell:

    Asus A8V Deluxe rev2 seems a good bet. Out of the box you have two options - firstly, there is a decent chance the board will POST, not recognising the Winchester core, but allowing you to flash the BIOS. Secondly, Asus have a BIOS update thingy, that works from a floppy, so if you have another PC, you can make a floppy, and update the BIOS even if it wont post.

    The MSI also seems a good bet, apparently working out of the box.

    The Abit AV8 seems the worst bet at the moment, apparently, it doesn't work at all below a certain revsion of the BIOS and has no way to POST to flash it without a fully working CPU.

    What I've managed to pull together from various people anyway.

  3. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Midlands
    Posts
    8,629
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    268 times in 188 posts
    Also, you can wait for stock of boards with later BIOS's to arrive. The place I get my stuff from has 1007 BIOS Asus A8V boards in next week.

    I'll get around it that way.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    792
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    9 times in 9 posts
    Waiting for MSI mobo with latest BIOS myself..............

  5. #5
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Milton Keynes, England
    Posts
    19
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    What the performance difference between the Newcastle and Winchester cores in relation to price difference (if any)?

  6. #6
    Now with added sobriety Rave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    SE London
    Posts
    9,948
    Thanks
    501
    Thanked
    399 times in 255 posts
    The only performance difference clock-for-clock is that the Winchester has slightly lower L2 cache latency (according to The Tech Report, who I trust). It makes very little difference generally.

    Other than that, Winchesters use less power, and may overclock slightly further. Oh, and the 3000+ and 3200+ are only available as Winchesters, making them the only halfway affordable option for S939.

    Rich :¬)

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Midlands
    Posts
    8,629
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    268 times in 188 posts
    From what I've seen, the Winchesters were faster, but by very small ammounts when gaming. 2% in Doom III and 7% in Quake III acording to a trusted website.

    Overclocking is where they shine though, with most Winchester's hitting 2.6ghz, which is FX-55 speeds.

    This is not guess work, this is taken from actual reviews. All in all, if you have a choice, always get the Winchester, although they are not avalible in great numbers at the moment.

  8. #8
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Milton Keynes, England
    Posts
    19
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    I was just planning to order a 3800+ but would you say its worth waiting for the new cores? I guess it means flashing the BIOS on the Asus A8V to add support for the new cores?

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Midlands
    Posts
    8,629
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    268 times in 188 posts
    Wait, and save money. Get a 3200+, overclock it and you'll get the same performance for much less cost, as well as the other benefits of the 90nm tech.

    You will need the latest BIOS though.

  10. #10
    HEXUS.timelord. Zak33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    I'm a Jessie
    Posts
    34,154
    Thanks
    2,581
    Thanked
    2,641 times in 1,666 posts
    • Zak33's system
      • Storage:
      • Kingston HyperX SSD, Hitachi 1Tb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Nvidia 1060
      • PSU:
      • Coolermaster 800w
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Fortress FT01
      • Operating System:
      • Win10
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTC uber speedy
    AMD is frankly tearing Intel a new one right now

    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
    "The second you aren't paying attention to the tool you're using, it will take your fingers from you. It does not know sympathy." |
    "If you don't gaffer it, it will gaffer you" | "Belt and braces"

  11. #11
    Banned myth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    alone in life
    Posts
    2,553
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    AMD is frankly tearing Intel a new one right now
    Did you see how much the 3500+ costs over here? $280! Thats like 140 for yous... I also saw the 4000+

  12. #12
    Now with added sobriety Rave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    SE London
    Posts
    9,948
    Thanks
    501
    Thanked
    399 times in 255 posts
    What's your point Myth? The 3.4GHz Prescotts cost about the same, and don't perform as well (in games at least).

    Rich :¬)

  13. #13
    Banned myth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    alone in life
    Posts
    2,553
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Rave
    What's your point Myth? The 3.4GHz Prescotts cost about the same, and don't perform as well (in games at least).

    Rich :¬)

    My point is that they are now afordable! This is a good thing! I have been waiting for this, soon you'll get to see my new rig...

  14. #14
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    4
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaul
    Also, you can wait for stock of boards with later BIOS's to arrive. The place I get my stuff from has 1007 BIOS Asus A8V boards in next week.

    I'll get around it that way.
    Hi am new to the forum and new to AMD and thinking of getting the Asus A8V rev 2 and I to was wondering about the bios, I know that the boards ship with a 1006 bios but you say you are geting one with the 1007 could you tell us from were thanks.

  15. #15
    "You're my wife now!" Ravens Nest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    The Pandemonium Carnival
    Posts
    1,549
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked
    43 times in 24 posts
    Sorry
    Last edited by Ravens Nest; 31-10-2004 at 08:56 AM. Reason: Posted by accident
    "Mmm... I want you for my wife!"
    "Autom...Sprow...Canna...Tik banna...Sandwol...But no sera smee?"
    "Of course you can. We would love for you to join us."

  16. #16
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    47
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    msi have 2 boards with both nf3 250 and kt800, what one of these boards should i go for if im OC ing the 3200+ 90nm with it??
    and is msi the best board to buy as it works straight out of box and i am a bit of a noob :X

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. making a new pc - here are the specs, help!
    By Afghan_Soulja in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 22-10-2004, 07:40 PM
  2. Socket 939 CPU's
    By Karl|Neo in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 28-09-2004, 07:17 PM
  3. Socket 939 - the new socket A?
    By Steve in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 29-06-2004, 09:04 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •