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    ITX GPU selection

    Hi guys, I'm building an itx gaming system in a compact case,something like the coolermaster elite 110 or a relative sugo case.I want a case smaller than 30x30x30 cm.
    It will be as passive as possible, no water cooling or CPU overclocking. I'll be using a simple i7 4790 an h97 mobo.I've got a problem with the GPU selection. Thank God I didn't buy a 970 yet.I was planning on getting the Asus 970 mini at 360 Euros ( about 280£).
    I'll use it mainly for GTA V and witcher 3.Next spring I plan to build a new skylake tower at 1200£ and use this itx cube as a NAS/HTPC.
    For an 1080p gaming with the two titles mentioned ( GTA 5, witcher 3) would I be covered with the gtx 970?Isn't there a driver option to deactivate the 0,5 GB of slower ram on the card?
    My other options would be either the sapphire mini 285 which is weak or to wait for a GPU in March in case AMD releases a compact 370x.What would you do?

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    At 1080p the vram issue is not something worth worrying about too much. If sticking to team green I dont' think there are any short 980s anyway so there isn't really a way round the issue.

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Use a Xeon instead of the i7.

    I'd still go with the 970 (doubt you will notice the 0.5GB stuff)...there's a new driver coming for it soon as well changing the way it uses the slower RAM....or wait for the new AMD cards. If they do come with stacked RAM, the cards should be smaller.
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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Use a Xeon instead of the i7.
    Don't you lose a lot of functionality of a xeon if you use a consumer motherboard rather than a server motherboard?

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Quote Originally Posted by rob4001 View Post
    Don't you lose a lot of functionality of a xeon if you use a consumer motherboard rather than a server motherboard?
    Most of them don't have the onboard graphics, which you might want as some kind of backup.

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Quote Originally Posted by rob4001 View Post
    Don't you lose a lot of functionality of a xeon if you use a consumer motherboard rather than a server motherboard?
    You lose the iGPU and the overclocking (if your comparing to a K-model)

    You gain lower voltage, lower temps, ECC RAM support and hyper-threading (once you pass the first 2 models).

    So if your not overclocking, a hyperthreaded xeon works out better then an i7.
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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Interesting as I've been thinking of a Xeon as my next gaming processor over in i5/i7 as more games will start to use hyperthreading.

    Sorry seem to be over taking this thread! I personally would also wait to see what amd bring to the table in March.

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    The E3 Xeons ending with 0 or 1 don't have an iGPU, the others do: http://ark.intel.com/products/series/75143#@All

    If you wanted to retain some of the Server/Business features you could drop back to the B85 chipset 'boards, here's a review of one: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/mainbo...-vanguard-b85/ (there are ITX versions, too).

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    That said dunno why you would bother with a Xeon; Yes they are "better" for server workloads but they also cost a significant $$ more. I run a home server (win 2k12 and atm windows 10 server preview) with non ECC RAM and havent had any major issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcvs View Post
    That said dunno why you would bother with a Xeon; Yes they are "better" for server workloads but they also cost a significant $$ more.
    My Xeon was ~£30 less than the 'equivalent' i7; Scan currently lists 5 Haswell Xeons below the starting price of a Haswell i7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    My Xeon was ~£30 less than the 'equivalent' i7; Scan currently lists 5 Haswell Xeons below the starting price of a Haswell i7.
    How was their comparative clockspeed

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcvs View Post
    That said dunno why you would bother with a Xeon; Yes they are "better" for server workloads but they also cost a significant $$ more. I run a home server (win 2k12 and atm windows 10 server preview) with non ECC RAM and havent had any major issues.
    You don't have ECC ram, so by definition you don't know if you had any issues

    Still I think the point here is that Xeons can be cost effective. People buying 100 servers generally don't pay over the odds for their CPUs as every £10 becomes £1000 more out of pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    You don't have ECC ram, so by definition you don't know if you had any issues

    Still I think the point here is that Xeons can be cost effective. People buying 100 servers generally don't pay over the odds for their CPUs as every £10 becomes £1000 more out of pocket.
    I *did* mean issues in regards to corrupted files etc, I havent noticed anything - ofc I dont know if there are minor ones.

    In terms of Xeon cost; I was purely looking at Cost for a comparative model; take 2011v3 as an example, a hexcore 5820k is cheaper and has a higher base clockspeed than the lowest hex core xeon (Xeon E5-2620 V3, S2011-3, 6 Core, 2.4GHz), the cheaper ones are all quad core, BUT it does have 40 PCI-E lanes; so it is a bit horses for courses.

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcvs View Post
    How was their comparative clockspeed
    3.3GHz Base, 3.7GHz Turbo cf. 3.4GHz and 3.9GHz.

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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    The socket 1155 and 1150 Xeon E3 CPUs cost less than their Core i7 equivalents. I am currently using a Xeon E3 1230 V2 in a B85 mini-ITX motherboard and a mate recently built a system with a Xeon E3 1230 V3 in a H97 mini-ITX motherboard.


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    Re: ITX GPU selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcvs View Post
    I *did* mean issues in regards to corrupted files etc, I havent noticed anything - ofc I dont know if there are minor ones.
    Well yes I got that, hence the emoticon. Let's face it in home computers we take a punt, usually if you get memory corruption in a home PC then you might get a momentary graphical glitch or at worst a game crashes and they do that so much anyway you probably wouldn't notice the difference. On a home server there might be corruption, but there usually aren't many *really* important files on there either.

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