5820 Vs Skylake processor? Gaming and video editing....

[EvZ_2]

Hi all,

I'm building a new PC this summer - I'm going to be using an Intel processor and the GTX 980 Ti
Use: Gaming, Video Editing, coding
Case: NZXT 440
Resolution: 2K IPS G-Sync (don't think 4k is truly viable for me atm, - i want higher FPS on a single card)

But with all this talk of the Skylake processors coming out in August I was wondering should I opt for the 6700k or the 5820k? (or something else)

Which one will be most "future proof"? (hate the word - but i don't want to have upgrade for a few year so I want to use the best architecture I can afford atm)


Thanks,

EvZ

[dfour]

If your going to be doing a lot of video work I would think the more 'proper cores' you have would be better so the 5820k would be the best deal. Gaming will make little to no difference as Hexus showed with the 8 core/16 thread beast a while back.

If its more gaming you probably be better waiting for skylake and the new chipset.

I would guess (going on intels previous) that the haswell E will be a dead platform soon as I think its unlikelythey will release more 'E' chips later so your restricted to whats out now (not as if they are slow or anything like that).

[KeyboardDemon]

I agree with dfour, it depends on the mixture of different uses. If your workload is split 60/40 either way go for the cheaper option of a 4 core i7 with the larger cache than the i5 and hyperthreading. If you are doing more than 60% video then it would be worth going for the 6 core 5820K as the extra cores will make a massive difference in video editing.

As for whether you should wait for Skylake, that really depends on your time scale, if you need to start work on a project now then you can't wait, if you find you can wait and can get by until then with what you have then that would be the better option.

[MrJim]

Just as an addendum to the previous comments, if your budget is up to it, I would factor in a decent size SSD for use as a scratch disk, especially if you're editing 4K video. It'll speed up the workflow considerably.

[KeyboardDemon]

Just as an addendum to the previous comments, if your budget is up to it, I would factor in a decent size SSD for use as a scratch disk, especially if you're editing 4K video. It'll speed up the workflow considerably.

I'm curious, could a standard quad core i7 with an SSD for scratch beat a six core i7 that has no SSD scratch disk in performing the same video editing tasks?

[Agrippa]

...as I think its unlikely they will release more 'E' chips later so your restricted to whats out now...

I thought Skylake-E was tentatively scheduled for around Q3 next year, at least according to the likes of KitGuru, GameSpot and Intel's own roadmap...? If not, do you have a link or anything, as Skylake-E is what I intended to upgrade to next.

Unless you meant more "E-types" of the current crop?

[kalniel]

I'm curious, could a standard quad core i7 with an SSD for scratch beat a six core i7 that has no SSD scratch disk in performing the same video editing tasks?

Too many variables to make a generic case for a limiting factor which would indicate a better direction to go in.

For my own minor video work, I'm mostly CPU bound. Faster IO would make input a little quicker so would still improve 'performance' a bit, but I'm not significantly IO bound on writes.

So despite having an SSD, I use it for a photo cache, not video, and video writes straight to mechanical disk (subject to Windows caching).

[dfour]

I thought Skylake-E was tentatively scheduled for around Q3 next year, at least according to the likes of KitGuru, GameSpot and Intel's own roadmap...? If not, do you have a link or anything, as Skylake-E is what I intended to upgrade to next.

Unless you meant more "E-types" of the current crop?

Im going on previous intel habits. When intel introduces a new 'E' chip it introduces a new chipset etc so you will then have to buy a new motherboard to use the new chip. Maybe you will be lucky as the 2011 chipset is new and uses ddr4 they will use it for skylake E but I wouldnt hold my breath for it.

If you buy haswell E and then skylake goes to a new chipset you can still upgrade to the 8core monster at a later date if needed.

[Gronich26]

Another factor not mentioned is that the Haswell E doesn't support Quicksync - Skylake does. I personally went with a 5820 for encoding with Handbrake as I was unimpressed by both the quality and file size using Quick sync.

[KeyboardDemon]

Another factor not mentioned is that the Haswell E doesn't support Quicksync - Skylake does. I personally went with a 5820 for encoding with Handbrake as I was unimpressed by both the quality and file size using Quick sync.

I might be mistaken, but I think that the Haswell E CPUs don't have integrated GPUs which is required for QuickSync, this also means it is likely that Skylake E won't have QuickSync either. Hopefully someone that knows more about this than I do will shed some light on the matter, particularly if I'm wrong.