Best Winnie to oc?

[icp222]

Looking to get a Skt939 SLi board and wondering what one would get me the best bang for buck when oc'd?

The Monkey

[johnnr892]

the 3000+ is about £95
the 3200+ is about £135
the 3500+ is about £200

personally i would got for wither the 3000+ or the 3200+, both will overclock brilliantly, but if you want that little bit extra performance and you have got an extra £40 go for the 3200+ but the 3000+ will still do you proud, John.

[dawson]

My 3000+ Winnie is sitting nicely at 2400mhz at 1.55 volts, using a SLK948 cooler with a quiet 92mm fan. Nice and easy overclock, and Prime95 stable.

I'd probably go with the 3200+ if you can afford it, as it'll allow you to overclock further without having to use memory dividers.

[SilentDeath]

Can someone please list all the current s939 chips, there clockspeeds, mem dividers? and all the other differences?

Ill probably be getting the cheapest winnie I can find..

[dawson]

3000 = 1.8ghz = £95 (9 x 200)
3200 = 2.0ghz = £130 (10 x 200)
3500 = 2.2ghz = £190 (11 x 200)

Remember, they are multipler locked upwards. So to bring the 3000 up to say, 2.4ghz, you need to run at 267mhz FSB. Which means using dividers, unless you have some very nice memory.

Best value is the 3000 for sure, where better memory will aid your overclocking adventures. The 3200 would be the better choice if you can afford it. Means without using dividers, and with average memory, it should overclock further.

[StormPC]

Looking to get a Skt939 SLi board and wondering what one would get me the best bang for buck when oc'd?

The Monkey

The 3200+ Winnie is probably the best bang for the buck. Try to get a week 37 or newer.

The words "bang for the buck" and "SLI" do not belong in the same paragraph. SLI is not cost effective. Build a computer with a Winnie 3200+ and an A8N SLI wiith a couple of 6600GTs and you'll have a system about half as powerful as an FX-55, MSI K8N Neo2 and X800 XT for about the same money.

If you can't afford an FX-55, two 6800GTs (Ultras preferred) and a GREAT PSU you should probably choose something else.

[LeeumH]

It depends on your RAM, as Winnies are multiplyer locked you need all the FSB you can get. The 3500 will give you the highest speed for the same FSB, you want the best overclocking board and RAM you can get, i've seen people on Xtreme Systems forums who have hit 300FSB on an MSI K8N Neo 2, if you get the right NB that is.

[icp222]

I am finding I trust your opinion Storm, even if you do have an FX-55... So please explain, although the 3200+ won't touch the FX, why won't 2x 6600GTs get near an XT?

+ Say I don't go SLi... The best board is? MSI K8N Neo 2, or A8V Deluxe Rev.2?

[StormPC]

I do have a 3200+ Winnie and Neo2 (I use it for running SETI and Internet browsing) in addition to my FX-55s (and a few others). Right now these are my main machines:

1) Asus A8V rev2.0 / FX-53 / eVGA 6800GT (main gaming rig)
2) Asus A8V rev1.2 / FX-55 / X800 XT PE (#1 ASUS MBD on the FM 2k1 ORB)
3) MSI K8N Neo2 / 3200+ Winnie / X800 XT PE (#1 512k cache <2480MHz on 2k1 ORB)
4) Asus A8N SLI / FX-55 / Dual 6800 Ultras (test system, just finished Sunday)

Read this: http://www.legionhardware.com/html/doc.php?id=377

People who think they can buy SLI as an upgrade path need to think again. The only way you can be sure your graphics cards will work in SLI mode is to buy them at the same time. Also they must be identical cards. You can't run an Asus 6600GT in one slot and a Gigabyte in the other.

I never said the 6600GTs would not be close to an XT PE (the XT in the review above is not a PE), I said SLI is not cost effective yet. When the prices of motherboards and videocards come down then SLI will be the best value for gamers. Right now it's new so you'll be paying a huge premium as new tech always requires. It's a great technology though, and an FX-55 w/ dual 6800 Ultras is unbeatable in DX9 games and benches.

[icp222]

And your job is??? With those rigs!

Either way, I am now considering an A8V, some tight RAM, and a 3200+ Winnie... Also a Gainward 6600GT GLH?

[LeeumH]

Don't go for the A8V mate, get yourself an MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum, or wait for the Neo 3 and go for a PCI-E 6600GT if you can wait.

[SilentDeath]

3000 = 1.8ghz = £95 (9 x 200)
3200 = 2.0ghz = £130 (10 x 200)
3500 = 2.2ghz = £190 (11 x 200)

Remember, they are multipler locked upwards. So to bring the 3000 up to say, 2.4ghz, you need to run at 267mhz FSB. Which means using dividers, unless you have some very nice memory.

Best value is the 3000 for sure, where better memory will aid your overclocking adventures. The 3200 would be the better choice if you can afford it. Means without using dividers, and with average memory, it should overclock further.

From my understanding, that is, of 32bitcpu overclocking Using dividers, or even a lower fsb does not hard performance THAT much (assuming the cpu is unlocked for any multi )

I think Id rather have a 3000+ and divide the mem, rather than spend extra for a small increase, of which I would get back through overclocking anyway. Cpu spead means a LOT more than fsb.. which is just a minor thing to tweak after the main compnents are o/c'ed imo.

Is this the same for Amd64? remember will be gaming, not number crunching mostly

[StormPC]

Actually if you want the NF4 chipset Gigabyte has their GA-K8NF-9 nForce4 Socket 939 ATX board out already here in the states. Sells for half the price of the A8N but it's single PCI-Ex only. Asus also has both NF4 and K8T890 based single PCI-Ex boards available in the next few days. ATi has the X850 XT PE and a few other cards that will be shipping soon as well. You may want to wait a bit if you consider this information. Lot's of new goodies available soon!

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@|SilentDeath|

I don't really understand what you are asking but here are some things concerning the A64 and overclocking:

1) FSB and MHz both have a huge impact on speed of an A64 system in games.
2) The higher the PR# (3200+ vs 3000+) the more multipliers you have to play with, as A64s are unlocked from their std multi down. Likewise, the higher the PR# the more likely you'll get a higher stable overclock (likely, but not for sure).
3) If you get a 3000+ and want to get 3500+ performance you'd better have great memory because you'll need it to run the necessarily high FSB speeds.

The 3000+ Winchester is a great deal because they will easily overclock to 2300MHz+ without special cooling, sometimes MUCH higher. I believe a gamer with a Winchester 3000+ overclocked and a 6800GT videocard is styling!