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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    Surely for a digital course an IPS monitor would be better ?
    Vital, I'd have said. Though this doesn't preclude Freesync/G-sync.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    I'd be putting a significant percentage of the budget on a 4k ips monitor.
    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    I'd be putting a significant percentage of the budget on a 4k ips monitor.
    I was looking at a budget of up to approx £1000 for the monitor and willing to tweak the other areas to still get great performance, its all good and well having top notch gear under the hood but what good is it without great peripherals to use it with
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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Just for my 0.02 it would be a X99 system with 980Ti SLI and the tastiest ips 4k monitor.
    That should cover the best of both worlds.
    Society's to blame,
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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    I wont be going dual GPU with the system as they only require a single monitor.

    Any specific ones that are rated well within their class for both G Sync, and 4k IPS?
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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Not G Sync, but both Dell P2415Q or Dell P2715Q are very well rated.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred View Post
    I wont be going dual GPU with the system as they only require a single monitor.

    Any specific ones that are rated well within their class for both G Sync, and 4k IPS?
    If you go for a 4K monitor, a dual GPU setup is pretty much a prerequisite for gaming, even if they're 980Ti's.

    I'd also go for the X99 / 5820K combo, especially if the media course involves video work of any sort. The 4K monitor would be of benefit too, as it gives plenty of screen space for editing at 1080p.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    If you go for a 4K monitor, a dual GPU setup is pretty much a prerequisite for gaming, even if they're 980Ti's.

    I'd also go for the X99 / 5820K combo, especially if the media course involves video work of any sort. The 4K monitor would be of benefit too, as it gives plenty of screen space for editing at 1080p.
    With a single 980 Ti you should get acceptable gaming performance, depending on your definition of acceptable, but as seen in this video the performance can be boosted to higher levels by turning off AA settings and reducing quality settings a notch or two.


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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    In this video you can see the difference that can be gained by adding a second 980 Ti to run in SLi.



    I won't draw any conclusions from these myself, but thought I'd put these out there for you to see if it helps at all.

    PS. Sorry for double posting but there is a 1 video limit on posts.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Frink View Post
    There seems a lot of hate for Skylake.
    No,its not "hate" but people using common sense. The Core i7 6700 is £300 FFS and its £100+ more expensive than a Core i5 6600K and only has HT and the remainder of the L3 cache unlocked. Plus for a 4C/8T its overpriced as its £300 for 4C/8T part with a 120MM2 die,which makes it the tiniest quad core Intel has made outside Atom. Even the Broadwell Core i7 5775C has a massive IGP and has a two to three times larger die and L4 cache used and is made using the same 14NM process. The Core i7 5820K has 50% more threads,more bandwidth and is a big die too. Even the PCB the chip is attached to uses FEWER layers than previous generations too.

    The Core i7 6700K at its current price-point is only serving into increase Intel profit margins massively on desktop CPUs so they can fund more forays with Atom. Its £50 too overpriced.

    You want single threaded performance,get a Core i5 6600K and you want decent multi-threaded performance get a Core i7 5820K.

    Intel consumer socket 4C/8T parts were a hard sell at the best of times due to the ridiculous tax for enabling HT,but the Core i7 6700K is taking it to a new level.

    If they get away charging £300 for a 4C/8T processor,wait until Kaby Lake 4C/4T parts are £250 and 4C/8T are £350.

    Plus X99 has Broadwell E coming too:

    http://www.fudzilla.com/news/process...ore-in-q1-2016
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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred View Post
    I wont be going dual GPU with the system as they only require a single monitor.
    CrossFire/SLI initially only supported using a single monitor. And a 3840x2160 monitor is about 30% more demanding than a triple screen 1920x1080 setup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred View Post
    Any specific ones that are rated well within their class for both G Sync, and 4k IPS?
    Sadly the 5140x2160 HighDPI/4k-video-friendly versions aren't out yet but it's still worth considering the 21:9 monitors. The 3440x1440 34" screens are the wide versions of the 27-28" models - same height more desktop space and peripheral vision in games. I've mostly been watching the adaptive sync versions myself but I believe there's a G-Sync version of the XR341CK called the X34.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Thanks for all of the replies going to see the boss tomorrow at work and try and get some more details on exactly whats required.
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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Spoke with my boss today and the course his son is studying is Information Systems and Networking so nothing to do with digital media at all. He primarily wants it as a gaming / entertainment system with the ability to do all of his uni work on as well.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-XB270HU...sync+144hz+IPS

    Any opinions on this monitor? And is G-Sync all its cracked up to be or just a gimmick that I should avoid and go with something else? I notice these types of panels tend to suffer from back light bleed, is this an IPS 144hz problem?

    I can't seem to find anywhere that sells P-OLED or OLED monitors either, I mentioned to my brother about doing this build and getting an IPS monitor and he laughed saying the tech was really old
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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    IPS is a category of display tech, the actual tech used in these displays is much newer than standard IPS. It's good enough for Eizo, but nearly all of this category have a barely visible glow on certain angles.

    G-Sync is good. You do pay a massive premium for it compared to an otherwise identical monitor that uses Freesync which is just as good.

    OLED is coming. But not yet.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    G-Sync is good. You do pay a massive premium for it compared to an otherwise identical monitor that uses Freesync which is just as good.
    I thought that Freesync became less effective once the frame rate drops below 38 frames per second, at least that's what they found at PCPerspective:

    Last edited by KeyboardDemon; 17-08-2015 at 03:31 PM.

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    Re: Gaming PC Rig

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardDemon View Post
    I thought that Freesync became less effective once the frame rate drops below 38 frames per second
    Depends on the monitor. IIRC the standard allows a maximum hold time of ~111ms (equivalent to 9 frames per second) but many monitors can't yet achieve that and switch back to fixed refresh at higher rates.

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