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    FREE upgrade worth it?

    Heya,

    Currently using 3570K on a P8Z77V-LX, OC'd to 4.5GHz and working on upping to a stable 4.8...
    Been offered a 3930K (C2 version) on a ASRock X79 board - Looks like one of the Extreme models, but I only saw it once and they all look the same to me!!

    I mostly game, watch movies, use internet and MS Office.
    Is this a worthwhile upgrade, you think? Will I really see that much improvement, bearing in mind I'm only using a 780 Lightning...?

    Would I be better off putting the 3930K onto something like the X99 Sabertooth (both 2011 socket, right?)...?

    Or is it all pointless until I can get a GTX1080?


    What are your thoughts, learned Hexites?

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    It is an SB CPU so you would lose performance in lightly threaded software your IB CPU,and I am not sure how much it will overclock as much. But in MT software the gain would be huge I suspect.


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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Would it be a massive loss, though, or would I really need measuring software (like Fraps, et al) to notice it?

    I'm hearing that a lot of games like Elite and The Division are MT now?

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I mostly game, watch movies, use internet and MS Office.
    Is this a worthwhile upgrade, you think? Will I really see that much improvement,
    No significant improvement, because you won't be CPU limited for some time. As and when you are, the upgrade won't necessarily lift it.

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    No significant improvement, because you won't be CPU limited for some time. As and when you are, the upgrade won't necessarily lift it.
    I do find my 3570K core usages all near-max on The Division... Won't the extra cores and threads on the 3930K be better, then?

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    FYI X99 is socket 2011-v3 and X79 is socket 2011 so they take different (incompatible) CPUs.

    If it's a free upgrade, I would move over to the 3930K and X79 motherboard. You should get an increase in multi threaded apps as mentioned (obviously because of the extra 2 cores) but you're also doubling your cache from 6MB to 12MB and getting quad channel RAM.

    There is potential for multi-threading to be utilised more in games where DX12 is used - http://www.pcworld.com/article/30395...12-gaming.html
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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Sounds to me like the real issue is that you might lose your overclock on the new CPU (unless it is a known good overclocker). Would dropping closer to stock speeds impact you?

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprite View Post
    FYI X99 is socket 2011-v3 and X79 is socket 2011 so they take different (incompatible) CPUs.
    Really?
    Damn... Kinda liked the look of that board!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprite View Post
    You should get an increase in multi threaded apps as mentioned (obviously because of the extra 2 cores) but you're also doubling your cache from 6MB to 12MB and getting quad channel RAM.
    That's the sort of thing the current owner is giving as the reason for me upgrading.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Sounds to me like the real issue is that you might lose your overclock on the new CPU (unless it is a known good overclocker).
    Apparently this C2 version is better anyway, but I should expect 4.6GHz without any worry and quite possibly 4.8 without any concern.
    TBH, I'm happy with my current at 4.5 anyway - The 4.8 is just to see if we can!

    The chap passing this on for free is what I consider a reasonably competent overclocker (as in consistently in the Top Ten on the scoreboards of certain forums) and will be doing all the fiddly BIOS bits for me anyway, so if it stuffs up it's his fault, ha ha!!

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    The chap passing this on for free is what I consider a reasonably competent overclocker (as in consistently in the Top Ten on the scoreboards of certain forums) and will be doing all the fiddly BIOS bits for me anyway, so if it stuffs up it's his fault, ha ha!!
    Well that sounds pretty much a solid win then to me.

    I think I use the Xeon equivalent of that chip at work. Stock ~3.6GHz and ecc ram, for stuff like code compile jobs it really flies.

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    I personally would upgrade, just because of the reasons mentioned earlier (more cores,more cache,more memory channels)

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    Re: FREE upgrade worth it?

    Everything installed, along witha spanking new copy of Win10.
    Already overclocked to an easy 4.5GHz, so should kick some decent bottom in anything hyperthready...

    I'mma go home, load up some games and blast away!!!

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