best mouseing surface for logitech mx1000

as the title says what is the best surface for useing my mouse on theres so many aluminium and glass etc surfaces to choose from now but i dont know which one will be best

i occasionally get the mouse jumping up to top of screen which is annoyng plus the feet of the mouse make the desk dirty plus i would prefer it on a dedicated mouseing surface one that tracks well during games etc and looks good !!

i will also do the little tip i saw on these forums of useing teflon paper from a supermarket :)

Get yourself a tracker mate, no need for any surface then :thumbsup:

Weebroonieuk - I have that mouse and use a Ratpadz gs http://www.ratpadz.com/

I'm happy with it. Mouse mat does occasionally need a scrub with some soapy water now and then just to keep it optimal. I have to say I would be interested in what others have found.

the free one I got from my mate, its a AMD reseller gift thing, if you are an AMD reseller you can order freebies, I have one of them and have a P4 lol

but hes not a reseller either, so I guess its quits ROFL

m@

not so keen on a plastic surface i would prefer a metal or glass one but im not sure the glass ones are too good for optical mice ??

ofcourse if the right plastic one comes along it will be purchased !

i dont use that mouse (intellimouse for me) but i do use the ratpadz gs and its amazing, i couldnt believe the difference, never mind the great accuracy, its like using your mouse in ice!! effortless movement, highly reccomended, esp if pcworld components are still doing them for a fiver !

well if its for a fiver who cares what it looks like :P

Someone posted something a while back about buying a teflon baking tray from sainsburys and cutting it up. Better than most mousemats

I use ratpadz these days. Have used glass (icemat) & metal (coolermaster) and didn't like them. For one the glass surfaces tend to be well noizy if you're playing a game that involves heavy mousing like UT2004 or CS. I also found the metal ones wore the mouse feet & I had to replace them (maybe it was a duff mat, rougher than usual).

So another vote for ratpadz here.

looks like it may well be ratpads then! what is this teflon tray like ? could it be cut to the shape of a normal pad

i thought people just cut up the teflon bakeing paper or whatever it is and stuck it to the mouses feet to let it glide around ?

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Originally Posted by weebroonieuk

looks like it may well be ratpads then! what is this teflon tray like ? could it be cut to the shape of a normal pad

i thought people just cut up the teflon bakeing paper or whatever it is and stuck it to the mouses feet to let it glide around ?

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BLack Ice 2... Nice glass surface! ;)

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Originally Posted by weebroonieuk

as the title says what is the best surface for useing my mouse on theres so many aluminium and glass etc surfaces to choose from now but i dont know which one will be best

i occasionally get the mouse jumping up to top of screen which is annoyng plus the feet of the mouse make the desk dirty plus i would prefer it on a dedicated mouseing surface one that tracks well during games etc and looks good !!

i will also do the little tip i saw on these forums of useing teflon paper from a supermarket :)

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icemat 2 review here http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=34837 if your interested. I have an MX1000 (since that post - must amend it) and it works amazingly well with the ice mat 2. Great with the pad surfers but even better with Mouse skatez. Like it floats on air. Also, i have a little bit of a jumping issuse with this mouse, but it turned out to be my USB port and it works perfectly in the PS2 port.

hehe well i was away ordering the ratpad and £10 copper cpu heatsink which im going to chop up and use for little ram sinks and anything else i can cut to fit !

i will try useing the ps2 adaptor for my mouse mate hope it solves it :)

I have had mine three days and now it won't move, in either PS2 or USB, I am sooo angry :rant: i really don't wanna HAVE to install the logitech bloatware, someone help me before I have to lol

m@

the ice pad is the best

I wonder if one of those mini air hockey tables would work? :p
I'm OK just using my desk. But I am tempted by an Icemat, wish I could try one out somewhere. Then again, the Ratpadz are so cheap at PCW Component Centre. Decisions, decisions!

where are the ratpadz? link please :)

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Originally Posted by nvening

where are the ratpadz? link please :)

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Google for it you lazy so and so. :lol: He did say please though.

http://www.ratpadz.com/

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601959

http://www.pcwcomponentcentre.co.uk/invt/bfgratpadz

http://www.casetech.co.uk/product.ph...cat=365&page=1

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Originally Posted by visidigi

I have had mine three days and now it won't move, in either PS2 or USB, I am sooo pissed :rant: i really don't wanna HAVE to install the logitech bloatware, someone help me before I have to lol

m@

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Try pressing reset on the base and then on the underside of the mouse

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Originally Posted by visidigi

I have had mine three days and now it won't move, in either PS2 or USB, I am sooo pissed :rant: i really don't wanna HAVE to install the logitech bloatware, someone help me before I have to lol

m@

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not meaning to be patronizeing but have u flicked the little switch underneath the mouse and tried messing around with the connect button on mouse and docking station ?

oops never checked the second page :P

Another vote for the ratpadzGS.
I'm using it with my mx700 keyboard at the moment and its served me strong in all 3d shooters. I've never really felt the urge to get a mx1000 myself, as my mx700 ratpadz combo works fine for me.

However after months of heavy day of defeat, quake 3 and strategy game thrashing, the centre of it is slightly wearing down. i may be in need of a new one soon!

maybe wise too buy a couple of spares from pc world maybe since there only 5 quid something !
next time i need to order from there i will get one just for the sake of it if there as good as you all say :)

The only 2 worth mentioning. i use fUnc on my mx700 its ownage for gaming :rockon:

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Originally Posted by visidigi

I have had mine three days and now it won't move, in either PS2 or USB, I am sooo pissed :rant: i really don't wanna HAVE to install the logitech bloatware, someone help me before I have to lol

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It should work (at least move!) without the logitech drivers, so don't install them if you don't want to.
Might be a duff mouse you have.
But - just to check - have you charged it up, do the green battery level lights come on, have you pressed both reset buttons to create the link (and have you turned the mouse's power switch on!?!?) :p :crazy:

fully charged, battery lights light up, pressed both reset buttons and sitched the mouse on and off, also tried it in tweo different USB ports and with the PS2 adapter and the think WILL NOT track up and down, just goes at diagonals lol

Its really annoying me, I might as well go back to my MX700.

m@

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Originally Posted by visidigi

I have had mine three days and now it won't move, in either PS2 or USB, I am sooo pissed :rant: i really don't wanna HAVE to install the logitech bloatware, someone help me before I have to lol

m@

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Have you tried charging the battery? :heckle: Sorry I couldn't resist!.

The so called bloatware allows you to customise the mouse including buttons to your own needs. I would recommend installing it as this will most likely tell you what the problem is. Hey it even gives you an MSN messenger pop up when the battery is low. :cool:

I dunno why this threads about the MX1000, it's sooooo old. You wanna get the MX 518... ;)

well, i love my icemat. Has to be one of the better bits of kit i've bought :)

I was thinking of going for the mx1000 to replace my aging intellimouse, but i wasnt sure how well the laser would track on a surface designed for standard opticals, if it'll be happy tho, my wallent will take another dent :p

nope still doesn't work, cba to setup the mx700 so I am using my ancient intellimouse 1.0 lol

Installed the drivers for the MX1000, even checked for IRQ conflicts, but still nothing, only thing left is to take it to work tomorrow and try it there, if it still don't work then its RMA time :rant:

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Originally Posted by Thorsson

I dunno why this threads about the MX1000, it's sooooo old. You wanna get the MX 518... ;)

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You mean this?
Oh my God, it must be real, they sold one on eBay . :eek:

Hello
I've been using the same "3M Precise Mousing Surface" for a number of years and it is very good. Only 2mm thick so doesn't clutter the desk or mess games up if the mouse goes off the edge.
I was using and enjoying an MX700, But a few weeks ago got myself a Razer Diamondback rather than an MX1000 and I am so glad I've gone back to corded! I first thought that it was too light, but have just finished "Armed and Dangerous" after snapping it up for £4.98 last week and am really pleased with the mouse precision, speed and having no fatigue!
Anyone ever tried a glass chopping board (cheap in Robert Dyas)?
Cheers
snedger

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Hello
I've been using the same "3M Precise Mousing Surface" for a number of years and it is very good.
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Anyone ever tried a glass chopping board (cheap in Robert Dyas)?
Cheers
snedger

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The 3M surface certainly works with the MX1000, but it wasn't to my taste. It isn't that the mouse drags, it just doesn't "glide", if you know what I mean. I'm sure some people would love it. If found my bare desk suited me better.
Also the 3M was quite loud when used with a razer Boomslang - made a scratchy sound. How is it with the Diamondback?
I was thinking the same about chopping boards. Maybe too thick, but if they're wide enough I guess that doesn't matter.

Rajagra,
You're right that the mouse doesn't exactly glide on a 3M, but there does appear to be consistent resistance, rather than with some mousemats, where you need an initial extra force to overcome the inertia and then if not checked the mouse slightly skids further than you meant it to. On the 3M, this means that small movements are very easy and accurate.
Scratchy sound is too low to hear when game sound is on. And whatever low friction pads are on the Diamondback are definitely slicker than on the MX700.
The mat has got quite dirty (sort of gritty, which doesn't go no matter how much you try and brush it off with your hand), but I'm reluctant to clean it as the dirt maybe the only thing holding it together.
If you try out the glass chopping board, might be an idea to put some sort of padding around the edge, as it could be very uncomfortable if the heel of your hand bangs into some tempered glass!
I just remembered that I did look into smooth surfaces for woodworking tool sharpening. Some other potential surfaces might be marble or granite. Might be able to pick up a cheap marble board from a charidee shop - the boards were all the rage a few years ago and then people realised that they blunt knives in double quick time. I don't suppose there have been many commercial solutions using those materials! But that's the beauty of value added home customisation - you can produce DIY one-off solutions that would be economically unviable, whether by cost of materials, cost of shipping, or excessive production time, for even mass production.
Let us know if you experiment.
Cheers
snedger

mines knackered, confirms on three different systems today, so its back to my local PC world as that where they say I can get an exchange on any online purchase, which is pretty good....

m@

sorted, walked in said dead, he said go get, I did he scanned I walked out, now why can't all RMA's be that easy :)

Works like a charm as well the new one does....

m@

Hello
Done some experimenting me!
Mousemat material: Granite vs Glass
Granite
'Sperimenting with a Razer Diamondback and a very first edition MS optical jobbie, using granite as a mousing surface is just about perfect! I was hoping that the granite would be a bit more cooling to my frenetic, hot hands, but it just stays the cool side of warm. Very smooth, precise and quiet. The old MSmouse sounded a bit scratchy, but that's 'cos one of its rubber feet is missing.
Glass
Didn't work at all. Maybe the glass was too thick? Even holding something detailed right up against the glass still resulted in complete and utter mouse pointer movement failure.

I didn't test a gonadic mouse.

BTW I was thinking of going on Ebay and conning people with selling granite mousemats, but I'll come clean - they are granite placemats from a BHS clearance sale! The dimensions are 30cm x 21cm - just about the same size as some of the big glass mouse mats (you know, the ones that do work). They've got thin bits of rubber glued to each corner to stop slippage - also makes it a bit easier to lift off the desk, than if it was flat.
Cost £6 pack of 2. There were some left in Brighton BHS on the 4th April -none in Croydon. I think that the sales assistant in Brighton looked a little bit scared when I told him what I was going to use them for!
cheeers
snedger

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Glass
Didn't work at all. Maybe the glass was too thick?

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Yep, too thick. My MS wireless optical mouse would not work with my Icemat. I am told (by icemat) that it's due to weeker optical signals with some wireless mice. My MX1000 works like a dream on it. See my review here...

http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=34837

is the MX 518 better than MX1000 *opinions please*

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Originally Posted by nvening

is the MX 518 better than MX1000 *opinions please*

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technically it should be better no lag as it is wireless

but id rather have the mx1000 hate wired mice now

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Originally Posted by nvening

is the MX 518 better than MX1000 *opinions please*

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was wondering this too. considering the mx518 or the razer diamondback, i used a corded mouse for the first time in a year or so last weekend, and it was so nice and light :)

OK, cut out the wired/wireless, is the actual mouse better, laser has got to be better?

I used the MX1000 for a day or two and couldn't stand the downgrade in games (over the MX300) ... didn't like the razer 1600dpi mouse either ... 518 might look good

http://www.logitech.co.uk/index.cfm/...ONTENTID=10121

... but f00k that where's the corded lazer mouse ... I even emailled logi about it before xmas stating how they are losing sales to Razer for being so short-sighted ... there are a lot of gamers that still know the benefits of corded goodness :)

bring on the MX6x series if that's the guise of the corded lazer

btw I've had a func 1030 for 4 and half years now and it's still going strong ... I've tested countless mats in between and nothing has usurped the power of the func

http://fps.brainerd.net/func%20surface.htm mmmmmmm havnt seen them for sale anywhere. Any one know where to get a ratpatz where the delivery is not the same price as the pad!

tried tekheads mate? they used to do them with good cheap postage :)

could not find a section or the pad (tryed search) anyways, i found the 518, that or the mx1000 ???
tis here http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=604107

doh, just looked for it myself, they must have stopped doing them after their recent move. shame a mate bought one only a few weeks ago :( sorry

i'd go for the mx518 as i dont lke the shape of the mx1000 (personal thing) and the little lag where it goes to sleep and wakes up, i know noone likes a camper, but we all play sniper occcasionally eh? :)

To be honest with you, i think if this mat is for a gamer then it realy depends on personal preference over all and by that i mean high/low sensitivity big/small size rough/smooth etc.

A few good names to look at would be:
Func
Corepad
Icemat
Everglide

I would write a description of each of their mats but that would be tiresome and i have not got all of their mats to test. Check them out before you buy anyway.

I just smear some used cooking oil over the desk.

Seriously? Isn't that a little... oily? *Thinks about davids forearm after a gaming session.*

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i know noone likes a camper, but we all play sniper occcasionally eh? :)

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Ye, will a massive machine gun LOL :rockon:

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... i dont lke the shape of the mx1000 (personal thing) and the little lag where it goes to sleep and wakes up...

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This is the first I have heard of this and I have never experienced that ever inthe few months I have had it. Good you explain a little more???

I've not seen many tests of the 518 and don't even know if it's available retail yet, however i can say that the mx1000 is extremely accurate and fast with no lag.

Still play alot of ut2004 (instagib) online and find that my accuracy and tracking speed is better. Been a player since the original, sigh :)

I did try a lot of mice (I wanted something nicer than my faithful intellimouse explorer) and in the end said (f**k it) "I'll get one, if I don't like it someone else will buy it". It does take a little bit of getting use to. I think (imho) there are some flaws regarding size/positioning of buttons but also a really nice one e.g. the button infront of the mouse wheel.

I was also surprised to find "how much freerer the mouse was" i.e independant of a cable. Even with a clip ala func 1030 there is still resistance from the wire. I know this doesn't bother some people but thought I'd give my experience.

I use a ratpadz gs which was ultra slippy to begin with but has worn down. The extra resistance is not too bad as it makes "mirco" moves a little easier.

I will certainly look at the func 1030 and icemat soon (friends have these so I can test). GarethG has got a good point it's all down to personal preference.

if you can try before you buy then do it.

The lag where it goes to sleep is to conserve battery time. It's a bit like your monitor going to standby. I took this mouse fully charged to a fri/sat/sun lan and it didn't fail me at all. Usually I get a good 2 weeks of normal+gaming use till I have to recharge.

I bought a RatPadzGS and an Icemat (small) to try out.
Both work great with the MX1000.
The ratpadz is a bit quieter & smoother (at least with Armor All wiped over it. ;) )
But I have to say, the Icemat is such a pleasure to use. I'd never choose style over substance, but the Icemat has both by the bucketload.
I'll spend some more time gaming with the RatPadz, but I reckon I'll buy the full size Icemat 2 eventually.
I never notice lag with the MX1000, even when it goes to sleep (lights go out). The big problem - if it affects you - is the lag caused by lifting the mouse.
See here. Video copied here.
Note that the method of testing is extreme, and designed to exagerate the problem. I never notice the problem. If anything, I see it as a GOOD thing that the cursor doesn't move when you reposition the mouse!

youy say the ratpadz better for gaming, so what makes the icemat better in other areas?

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you say the ratpadz better for gaming, so what makes the icemat better in other areas?

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Haven't actually used the RatPadz much for gaming yet, too much junk on my desk for it to fit. The Icemat just squeezes in place in portrait mode. :)

The Icemat:
25cm x 21cm (small, original version)
25cm x 30cm (ver 2)
Rectangular
Looks classy, like something from a designer furniture range
Not that expensive really
Works perfectly with MX1000
Very smooth
Very quiet
Stays in place most of the time
Will never wear out?
-unless you smash it.

RatpadzGS:
29.5cm x 23.5cm
Rectangular, but has 3cm curved cut-out at bottom
Looks cheap (It is!)
Works perfectly with MX1000
Doesn't work with an older Logitech cordless optical mouse - surprised me.
Very, very smooth, like mouse is floating on air
Very, very quiet
Stays in place mostly, but slides more often than the Icemat
Will wear out
-but most unlikely to break
Has a 3cm x 9cm logo at the top-right. This is smooth unlike the rest of the surface which is textured. It might not affect usability, but just knowing it's there makes you try to avoid the area. It's a bad, bad, bad idea.

im worried about the fact that my wrist will be resting on the cold hard corner of the mat.

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Originally Posted by dangerous_dom

This is the first I have heard of this and I have never experienced that ever inthe few months I have had it. Good you explain a little more???

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a friend has one of these which i was using a while ago. i found that if i was sat still camping with a nice big rifle in cs-source then after a minute or so (not sure exactly how long) then it would kinda go to sleep, and when i moved it needed to wake up.

this took hardly any time at all and woudnt normally be noticable, but when i wanted a super quick reaction from nothing i found it a little off putting. i suppose it could have been put down to surface, but i have heard others complaining of it too.

Dont Camp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dont Camp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ditto :mad:

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a friend has one of these which i was using a while ago. i found that if i was sat still camping with a nice big rifle in cs-source then after a minute or so (not sure exactly how long) then it would kinda go to sleep, and when i moved it needed to wake up.

this took hardly any time at all and woudnt normally be noticable, but when i wanted a super quick reaction from nothing i found it a little off putting. i suppose it could have been put down to surface, but i have heard others complaining of it too.

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I did a fair bit of research into the MX1000 before buying it and I never came accross this. It's probably more down the his sytem, faulty mouse or some kind of anti-camping system maybe.

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anti-camping system maybe.

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rofl what an idea!

yeah hope it was just his system, but im sure ive read about it before.

I just had a weird problem with my MX1000. Sometimes when I lifted it, the cursor would fly all over the place (was driving me crazy in HL2 deathmatch. :rant: ) I'd recently cleaned the bottom of the mouse, and had turned it off to do this, and thought the power off/on had caused the problem.

Anyhow, after looking really close, there was a tiny fibre stuck under the laser. A quick puff, and it's all back to normal. :D

Out of interest why do you guys have massive mouse mats and need to lift the mouse all the time?

I have a standard dell mouse mat which is small and averagly speeded cursor but hardly ever need to lift the mouse?

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Originally Posted by ben_wade

Out of interest why do you guys have massive mouse mats and need to lift the mouse all the time?

I have a standard dell mouse mat which is small and averagly speeded cursor but hardly ever need to lift the mouse?

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To "centre" the mouse - put it in a comfortable place while keeping the cursor where it's needed. We all do it without thinking about it - except when it goes wrong like it just did for me. I honestly didn't know I lifted the mouse so often.
(PS I'm just on a small IceMat right now.)

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Out of interest why do you guys have massive mouse mats and need to lift the mouse all the time?

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Hehe, I was having a nose around in
The Works and they do an A2 cutting mat for £6, and I couldn't resist.
A2 is huge. I may never pick up my mouse again :D