Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 17 to 28 of 28

Thread: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

  1. #17
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaKid View Post
    I have a Spyder Pro colorimeter, so I calibrate the individual monitor myself and a profile for it is automatically created and applied in the OS. A wider gamut support would certainly be useful (in Adobe RGB ... I'd expect near full sRGB anyway).

    I think the point about curved monitors and photo editing is interesting. I wonder if the curve is strong enough to cause perceived distortion in the image (or to detrimentally influence the image editing)?

    Perhaps triple 1080p is the answer, if the screens are very high quality, but then maybe that's a waste with not all games supporting multiple monitors. Certainly triple 27" monitors does seem too large. Maybe triple 1440p (@ 24") but always game on just one, which would mean perhaps a 1070 would give me high enough GPU power for high-framerates?!?
    The main issue with curved monitors is if you are doing things like architectural or landscape work,the distortion is not ideal.

    I use a 25" Dell UP2516D,which has hardware based calibration and is wide gamut(10 bit LUT and 8+2 bit colour). Its a great monitor,although it did have some issues with colour uniformity(according to reviews) when launched(mine seems fine though).

    Edit!!

    Regarding 1080p models,this looks like the perfect one:

    https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-c24fg70/

    It has a 144HZ VA panel and great colour accuracy. Sadly,its curved.

  2. #18
    Not a good person scaryjim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Gateshead
    Posts
    15,196
    Thanks
    1,231
    Thanked
    2,291 times in 1,874 posts
    • scaryjim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Dell Inspiron
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 8250U
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4GB DDR4 2666
      • Storage:
      • 128GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon R5 230
      • PSU:
      • Battery/Dell brick
      • Case:
      • Dell Inspiron 5570
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 15" 1080p laptop panel

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaKid View Post
    ... Maybe triple 1440p (@ 24") but always game on just one, which would mean perhaps a 1070 would give me high enough GPU power for high-framerates?!?
    A 1070 might even be overkill for a single 2560x1440, tbh - even an RX 480 can just about manage 60fps ultra quality at that resolution.

    I think you need to decide what's going to be best for your uses. You describe the photo editing as supporting "occasional" wedding photography, the multi-monitor setup as 'mostly' supporting your dev and your photo-editing ... so which is important? Your dev work can survive on pretty much any monitor; your photo-editing presumably needs high pixel density and good colour reporduction? But do you need that across all your monitors? Do you even need identical monitors? Could you get a workable set-up using different monitors for different purposes (e.g. Freesync will work on a primary FS monitor even if you have other, non-FS monitors attached to your GPU).

    Also, two things to remember when considering monitors: if you go for a very high pixel density monitor you can always use UI scaling to ensure you're not giving yourself eye-strain headaches trying to read tiny text, and b) games don't have to be played at the native resolution of your monitor, and (ime, at least) rarely look "bad" from dropping the resolution a little...!

  3. #19
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,978
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,586 times in 1,341 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Curved monitors and image editing - probably not really ideal TBH. OP should be looking at reviews looking at colour accuracy first,and gaming abilities second.
    I believe the ultrawide monitor I linked is flat, not curved.

    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Could you get a workable set-up using different monitors for different purposes (e.g. Freesync will work on a primary FS monitor even if you have other, non-FS monitors attached to your GPU).
    That is how my home setup works. You need to be mainly looking straight ahead anyway to avoid neck ache, so I find having the 27" main panel in front of me pretty ideal. To the right is an old 24" 2048x1152 Samsung panel which allows me to have reference material, email, or if gaming something like Elite Dangerous trade route references in a web browser so I don't have to tab out.

    Most games seem to work in windowed full screen these days so you just move the mouse pointer out of the game window and click on things in the browser.
    Last edited by DanceswithUnix; 18-01-2017 at 04:33 PM.

  4. #20
    Not a good person scaryjim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Gateshead
    Posts
    15,196
    Thanks
    1,231
    Thanked
    2,291 times in 1,874 posts
    • scaryjim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Dell Inspiron
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 8250U
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4GB DDR4 2666
      • Storage:
      • 128GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon R5 230
      • PSU:
      • Battery/Dell brick
      • Case:
      • Dell Inspiron 5570
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 15" 1080p laptop panel

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I believe the ultrawide monitor I linked is flat, not curved.
    The ultrawide one you linked (http://www.ebuyer.com/746754-acer-xr...r-um-cx2ee-001) says it's curved. The one I linked (http://www.ebuyer.com/721431-acer-bx...r-um-cb0ee-001) appears to be a flat version of the one you linked

  5. #21
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    The OP wants to turn up the settings - the GTX1080 on W3 I am using with Hairworks hits around 60FPS at 2560X1440 and just about 60FPS on Planetside2 which is an online FPS seems to be incredibly poorly optimised.

    Unless I am CPU limited during fights if I whack one or two settings up FPS can actually go down a silly amount,ie, some of the shadow settings seem to drop FPS a silly amount. Then Deus Ex:Mankind Divided does not even hit 60FPS with settings plonked up high.

    Personally I think its a problem with certain games not only being poorly optimised.

    I think the OP needs to consider that even if they get Titan X level card,they will need to consider playing around with settings to get the best overall mix of performance.

    If you are hitting more sane settings a GTX1070 would suffice I suspect.

    In some ways,I would argue to not only limit gaming to one monitor,but also consider getting a FreeSync or GSync monitor,although its a shame GSync has such a premium over FreeSync.

    Edit!!

    Regard qHD - the smallest ones are 25" ones like my monitor.

    Interestingly enough you do get 4K 24" ones which should scale perfectly to 1080P.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 18-01-2017 at 06:32 PM.

  6. #22
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Also regarding my earlier comment,has the OP considered getting this CPU:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xeon...AAOSw44BYe1vg]

    It is essentially a Core i7 980X but the Xeon version. It will give you a clockspeed bump and 50% extra cores,and should be a slot in upgrade to your current system.

    The six core socket 1366 CPUs were made on the same process node as Sandy Bridge IIRC,and if that Core i7 920 is at stock,you are gaining nearly 700MHZ in the max Turbo state and 50% extra cores too.

    If you are intending to buy a new platform,I would wait another month or two for Ryzen to launch.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 18-01-2017 at 05:49 PM.

  7. #23
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,978
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,586 times in 1,341 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    The ultrawide one you linked (http://www.ebuyer.com/746754-acer-xr...r-um-cx2ee-001) says it's curved. The one I linked (http://www.ebuyer.com/721431-acer-bx...r-um-cb0ee-001) appears to be a flat version of the one you linked
    lol, thanks, that's what you get for paying attention to work not forums

  8. #24
    Not a good person scaryjim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Gateshead
    Posts
    15,196
    Thanks
    1,231
    Thanked
    2,291 times in 1,874 posts
    • scaryjim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Dell Inspiron
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 8250U
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4GB DDR4 2666
      • Storage:
      • 128GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon R5 230
      • PSU:
      • Battery/Dell brick
      • Case:
      • Dell Inspiron 5570
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 15" 1080p laptop panel

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The OP wants to turn up the settings ...
    Emphasis on wants OP wants to push 60fps high settings to 3 qHD monitors off a single GPU, so OP isn't going to get everything they want!

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    lol, thanks, that's what you get for paying attention to work not forums
    Tut tut, forums are far more important

    although I'm not looking forward to the 48hr working weekend when this catches up with me!

  9. #25
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Emphasis on wants OP wants to push 60fps high settings to 3 qHD monitors off a single GPU, so OP isn't going to get everything they want!



    Tut tut, forums are far more important

    although I'm not looking forward to the 48hr working weekend when this catches up with me!
    The problem is with even ONE monitor at qHD,even a GTX1080 can be pushed - I can get around 60FPS on W3,but Hairworks does push quite a load. Deus Ex,is even worse than W3(!) in some parts,so I think its more a case you will need to turn down settings even with a GTX1080 let alone a GTX1070.

    I am just trying to indicate to the OP that even a £600 card will hit limitations at qHD let alone triple qHD resolution,but I suspect its partly the same as Crysis and a few other games in the past - they tend to be made to scale past the best cards at the time as AMD and Nvidia do want to sell their bigger GPU cards too so do include certain settings which are very taxing. It might be worth seeing how Vega and the GTX1080TI which is also being released in the next few months will pan out.

    However,if the OP does actually run the games at more reasonable settings a GTX1070,would probably suffice.

    In some ways I think its much better to get a 1080P monitor for gaming or one with decent scaling to 1080P(4K one),as it would only half the pixels,and 1/4 the pixels needed than at qHD and 4K,you need far less GPU grunt.

    Edit!!

    In no particular order I would say these are the settings which tend to tank performance:
    1.)AA
    2.)Shadows
    3.)Certain special effects
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 18-01-2017 at 06:20 PM.

  10. #26
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Maidenhead
    Posts
    289
    Thanks
    17
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    • DaKid's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Z270E
      • CPU:
      • i7-7700K
      • Memory:
      • 16GB DDR4-3000
      • Storage:
      • 500GB WD SSD, 3TB Sata (internal), 3TB USB (external)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • AORUS 1080Ti
      • Case:
      • Define R5
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2x Dell U2715H 27" 2560x1440
      • Internet:
      • VirginMedia 100GB

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Editing because previous submit only posted part of the message!

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Emphasis on wants OP wants to push 60fps high settings to 3 qHD monitors off a single GPU, so OP isn't going to get everything they want!
    What OP wants most of all is experienced opinions, and there seems to be LOADS of them here

    I'm not buying immediately so I'll keep an eye on the AMD options. If I can fit it into the budget, it looks like triple 1440p + GTX1080 is probably what I'll go for, but we'll see. By the time I am ready to pull the trigger, I'll almost certainly post the build in the appropriate place for review.

    Thank you all, for your help
    Last edited by DaKid; 18-01-2017 at 06:17 PM.

  11. #27
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    I had a play around with W3,since I have installed newer drivers. Had a run round one area and was getting 57FPS to 70FPS at qHD with everything ramped up including the silly settings.

    With Gameworks off I was getting 72FPS to 80FPS. Switching AA off,dropping shadows down to medium and SSAO Ambient Occlusion,and I am getting closer to 90FPS.

    The game is still quite pretty at those settings. I might have a go at Deus Ex,too.

    Having said that I do have a slightly older CPU in an IB Xeon E3 1230 V2/Core i7 3770 but looking at 1080P results the game is far more GPU limited.

  12. #28
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Can these (large) requirements be met in this (large) budget?

    Forums went a tad weird there for a bit!!

    Unintentional repeat post!!

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •