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Hi, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with my pc so i thought to ask here if these temps are too high. Please keep in mind the gfx card was designed to run at high temps.
Going to clean pc and reinstall windows, hoping that will help. thanks in advance for any help
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From what I can tell no your computer isn't overheating but your graphics card is running very high if it ever goes over 95°C then you should turn off your pc and let it cool down a bit. Also cleaning it would be a great idea and will lower the temps by a decent amount. As well Speccy sometimes has the wrong temperature eg my old cpu Athlon X4 860K always showed high temps like 80 or 90 but in reality it was always 20°C cooler than what was shown
The GPU is definitely overheating and probably needs a clean inside like emilsobo said, don't re-install Windows yet.. The CPU temperature looks very good.
I think this would help it massively..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-N2rLODgmE
Yeh clean that heat sink - I cleaned the radiator on my CPU recently and it was utterly caked after a few years of neglect.
Is that an at stress measurement or not? If that's stress I'd not worry so much but if it's a tickover measurement then something is very wrong.
thanks! do you guys know what that spray hes using to clean the thermal paste?
Couldnt see anything he sprayed the thermal paste off with.. but he used compressed air to clean the heatsink.Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
Yeah I saw that, I think he used something that didn't help in the slightest :DQuote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
I wonder if it was glasses cleaner or something, but I suspect if you can store it in a plastic bottle then it won't be much of a solvent, and if it is then spraying it around the circuit board seems a bad idea.
I usually scrape/wipe the worst off, then use a small bottle of acetone bought from the chemist (had to ask for it, there was only scented nail varnish remover on the shelves). Dab some onto a bit of kitchen roll, polish the last of it off. Harsh solvents, carefully controlled on a wipe.
He might have used IsoPropylAlcohol (IPA) Which is a less aggressive solvent. It will remove thermal paste - just takes longer and a bit more effort.
He was scraping though, a *lot* of scraping. I really couldn't see any solvent effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by peterb
If you watch some of his later videos he's using IPA so i guess he used that, although looking at how ineffective it was i suspect it may have been a 70% dilute intended for infection control.
Ja, because he may have been using IPA. Spray that on a TIM pad, and you'll still have a TIM pad 20 minutes later. It's awful at shifting big lumps of the stuff, which is why you need to scrape a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
I favour ArctiClean myself, but we have been known to use electrical contact cleaner, which smells the same... I think it's the Tetrachloroethylene in it?
We've even used brake cleaner, which must be referred to as 'Bremsenreiniger', and which is spoken with the worst German accent you can manage.
Hopefully not the slightly acidic version? But yeah, IPA sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster
Overall I wasn't impressed with that video, another example that you don't have to be an expert to be on youtube. Lack of static protection, amazed he didn't lose any screws the way the card was dangled off the edge of the table. Particularly liked the hard drive resting on its edge just waiting to get knocked over. Surprised he wasn't using Mr Muscle oven cleaner and an impact screwdriver :D
Are those temps under load?
89C is... well, normal for a 6970. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...D_6970/32.html
CPU isn't really cause for concern either. If you're not having any other problems I wouldn't worry about it, but cleaning out the dust from heatsinks is always worthwhile.
I'm thinking to replace my cpu cooler, any suggestion would be appreciated
well my issue is when playing games (wow mostly) my pc gets noisey and i drop a lot of frames. i have lowered the settings but i still have the issue where its almost a slideshowQuote:
Originally Posted by watercooled
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I remove thermal paste using pre-injection swabs which are little pads soaked in IPA as above. They work well but you have to get the worst off manually with something scrapey that won't damage the surface you're working on (plastic spudger is good) and then once it's down to near residue it's worth using some of the above type of swabs. They're particlarly suited as they don't leave bits of lint but be wary that if you do get them there are two types, one is just IPA and other have chlorhexadine or some other antiseptic in which you really don't want to be using as it leaves a residue. You can get them off amazon.
Yes, I use the swabs issued for injecting myself to clean bits of PC. And also bits of motorbike. Occasionally I use them before sticking a syringe in myself.
I see, it sounds like some games are pushing the card to its throttling temperature, and if fans are spinning faster than usual, the first thing to try would be to clean as much dust as possible out of the computer, before you start tearing things apart. Start with the simple stuff first! It's surprising how much dust you can find in a GPU heatsink if it's been used for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
The CPU still has some headroom before it hits throttle temperature, so main suspect would be GPU heatsink.
Combination of an air compressor and a hoover work well, just be careful to tie the fan blades in place so they don't risk spinning too fast and breaking things (not sure how big of a risk that really is but it doesn't hurt to play it safe). Also be careful where you point the vacuum if you're waving it around inside the system, e.g. don't knock off any components etc. Lastly, if you're using cans of 'compressed air' be aware it's usually butane/propane propellant i.e. flammable, so avoid sucking that straight through a hoover, just to be safe!
If, having tried all that, there's no real improvement, then consider stripping stuff apart.
yeah gpu temp was peaking at 98 earlier, so I think its an issue
woop! temps went down a bit ^^
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thanks for all the help!
Wow thats amazing, nearly cut in half :) whats gaming like now?Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
now you know it was the GPU... and you're sorted short term, may I suggest you get a new GPU soon anyway?
Because that 2gig card you have now isn't really particularly good compared to your BENQ 1920x1080 120hz monitor.
I think you'd be genuinely surprised how much faster all your games would run on that monitor .. you're not in need of a CPU to be fair.
Your screen shots show 8gig of DDR3. in single channel mode. Do you have 4 sticks of 2gig DDR3?
moving from 8 gig to 16 would be useful, and many games now use all that 8 and more and DDR3 is cheap enough second hand....its only DDR4 that's painful to afford.
16GB of DDR3 is around £100. I'm not sure it'll provide enough of a performancce boost given the games are going to be more limited by the GPU. I would consider a new GPU first (IF it's limiting gaming - some people have a few older games and just don't really play newer ones so it's just not worth it for them until their current GPU dies) but only extra RAM if there's extra monies sitting around. Getting it into dual channel mode would be helpful though!
Just dust clearing, or replacing TIM too?Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
i think he only needs 8 ... it's why I asked what the ram config is... and second hand 8 gig won't be £50Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
but you're right.. card first 100%
i noticed a improvement, i didnt have fps lag so i'm happyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ravens Nest
i have 2 x 4gb ram and noticed i had them in the wrong slots haha, must have been when i cleaned teh pc and reapplied thermal paste in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zak33
What are good gfx cards now at the £200 mark?
I cleaned the dust on the GPU heatsink and replaced the thermal paste, I had previously just used compressed air to clean but it didn't do much so decided to do a thorough cleanQuote:
Originally Posted by watercooled
Right now, I would go for an RX 580 8GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/power...gx-18l-pc.html
though this close to black Friday you could wait and see what pops up.
Depends on the size of your case and budget. Generally I'd recommend air cooling because it much cheaper, can reach similar performance to the best AIO coolers, they're quieter and most importantly the only failure would be a fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
after more testing sadly cleaning my pc and gpu has not solved the issue, slight improvement overall but still really low frame rates when raiding in wow (20 man)
Do you guys really think its the GPU and/or ram that's holding my system back?
Probably GPU. There are separate graphics options for raiding in WoW for a reason :)Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
8GB of ram should still be enough.
Turn the raiding graphics settings right down, and see if that helps. If it does, then that proves your gpu isn't coping. They do turn the graphics requirements up with every expansion though, and a newer card would get you DX12 support so it might be worth doing anyway if you can afford it.
yeah its on the raid settings also, even when i lower them to the lowest settings there isnt much gain but when there is a lot going on (i.e lots of mobs/adds etc) the fps just drops really low (10fps)Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Have you got the latest graphics drivers ready to install? (latest seem to be 2016..)
https://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/no....2.1-sep20.exe
Also Have you used DDU to uninstall your old AMD drivers
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details...-download.html
And also is WOW on the SSD? also do you have a lot of utility's running in the background?
Maybe your internet may effect it too?
hmm i thought i had the updated drivers but your says sep 20, also that link doesnt work for me. i do have wow on the ssd and just chrome in the backgroundQuote:
Originally Posted by Ravens Nest
Just a thought, have you checked CPU/GPU utilisation graphs while you're playing? They're not a sure way of telling where the problem lies but it can be a start e.g. if GPU utilisation is usually low then hits 100% during a raid you have some idea. Same with CPU but you'd have to check core loading rather than CPU total.
I've no idea how demanding WoW is so I wouldn't know whether CPU/GPU is likely in your case off the top of my head.
oops sorry..Quote:
Originally Posted by satsuma
Here they are
https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GR...N-64-bit.shtml
Thats a good idea there, might help satsuma get to the bottom of the problem..Quote:
Originally Posted by watercooled
It is pretty demanding, but hammers CPU GPU and also when raiding requires a decent network connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by watercooled
When I was playing the last expansion an R7 360 was struggling and I wouldn't want to raid with it. I think that is faster than what the OP has. Minimum requirements is a 2GB 7850, recommended an R9 280. My son plays it OK with an R9 285 2GB.
I ordered a rx 580 but if there's not much improvement i'm thinking about upgrading cpu/ram/mobo, trying to save a little money and thinking about using the current CPU cooling - would buying this give me the brackets i need for current cpu sockets?
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Catego...t/p/CW-8960013
As far as I know the cooler brackets for Intel CPUs have been the same since Sandy Bridge (so 2000 series). Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'd see how you get on with the GPU first though.
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