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    SSD in older hardware

    I have got an Asus p5q pro motherboard which I know is old... sitting in a lian Li pc-A07 case

    I would like to install an SSD with operating system installed. I have the following viable ports spare: multiple sata & 1x pci express x16 slot.

    Q) Would any SSD be recognised by bios let alone be able to boot from it

    Q) Could an nvme based drive in an expansion card holder work / be bootable?

    Q) for sata based are there any adapters that would allow the drive to be mounted in a 3.5" drive bay

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    1- SSD looks like a very fast HDD to a PC.
    2- Don't know
    3- 2.5" to 3.5" rails - cheap as chips and very common.
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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    1) I ran a 128GB SSD in an old Intel 775 rig.
    2) I don't think the old motherboards supported PCIE booting and, if you just stuck it in a SATA compatible caddy of some sort, you'll be limited to the speed for the SATA port ~ 3gbps, so you'd be no better off than using a sata SSD.
    3) what Blueball said.
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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    1/ A SATA SSD should work just fine and be a good upgrade.

    2/ NVMe boot requires BIOS support, so won't work in your motherboard not aware of NVMe

    3/ I 3D printed one if you know someone with a printer, but they are cheap https://www.amazon.co.uk/Valuegist-I...dp/B07GLSL6DF/

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    I used to have the same motherboard I think bootable NVMe support was introduced with Z97 based motherboards, so you won't be able to boot straight to an NVMe SSD. Still, booting from a SATA SSD will give you a great boost in speed if you're coming from a conventional hard-disk. You could still make use of NVMe SSDs though, by using a PCIe adapter card, which are pretty cheap & widely available.

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    So it looks like a SATA based SSD in 2.5" to 3.5" rails WILL boot & be fine for operating system

    NVME based SSD could be used providing it sits in a PCI-e adapter card, with said card then sitting in the spare pci express x16 slot on motherboard - i know the card wont use many of the lanes. From above comments suggests it WONT boot from it, so purely as storage / apps

    What happens to gpu bandwidth with both x16 slots occupied?
    Cooling of SSD?
    Last edited by Chris1808; 24-05-2019 at 08:08 PM.

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Is it a SATA 3 motherboard? Sata 3 PCI-E cards are readily available throught the world.
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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris1808 View Post
    NVME based SSD could be used providing it sits in a PCI-e adapter card, with said card then sitting in the spare pci express x16 slot on motherboard - i know the card wont use many of the lanes. From above comments suggests it WONT boot from it, so purely as storage / apps
    I really wouldn't bother, cheap NVMe drives are no faster than SATA under heavy use, the really fast NVMe drives are very expensive.

    Get a SATA drive, a decently sized one. It will be useful for years yet. I have one of these for Windows:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-MX5...dp/B077SF8KMG/

    put the money you saved by not buying NVMe and adapter boards towards a nice Ryzen upgrade.

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
    Is it a SATA 3 motherboard? Sata 3 PCI-E cards are readily available throught the world.
    Downloaded Manual shows as SATA 3Gb/s for on-board ports

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    fair enough. I believe that 3 * 1024 gbit /s could equate to 384 M Bytes / second so that would seem to be SATA 2.
    You will benefit from an SSD but as mentioned the card option is a better One .
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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris1808 View Post
    Cooling of SSD?
    SATA SSDs don't really need it, 2.5" SSDs (which get kept away from hot stuff like GPUs unlike m.2 versions) more so. They used to have a thick thermal pad sinking some heat to the 2.5" case (example), but more modern drives seem to do without it

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I really wouldn't bother, cheap NVMe drives are no faster than SATA under heavy use, the really fast NVMe drives are very expensive.

    Get a SATA drive, a decently sized one. It will be useful for years yet. I have one of these for Windows:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-MX5...dp/B077SF8KMG/

    put the money you saved by not buying NVMe and adapter boards towards a nice Ryzen upgrade.
    I second the MX500 (but don't have any compelling reason to go for it over, say, a samsung equivalent)

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    I second the MX500 (but don't have any compelling reason to go for it over, say, a samsung equivalent)
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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I really wouldn't bother, cheap NVMe drives are no faster than SATA under heavy use, the really fast NVMe drives are very expensive.

    Get a SATA drive, a decently sized one. It will be useful for years yet. I have one of these for Windows:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-MX5...dp/B077SF8KMG/

    put the money you saved by not buying NVMe and adapter boards towards a nice Ryzen upgrade.
    This. Unless you're throwing around some serious file sizes regularly, there will be little difference between NVMe and SATA. You will notice a MASSIVE difference with a SATA SSD from a HDD. Most people won't notice a leap from good SATA SSD to cheapo NVMe SSD under normal use. Go for capacity but get a decent drive with decent edurance.

    I'd not even bother with the hassle of using the PCI-e slot. It's just not worth it.

    I use a Crucial MXsommatorother SATA drive as my primary and boot drive.

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    Re: SSD in older hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    I second the MX500 (but don't have any compelling reason to go for it over, say, a samsung equivalent)
    The Samsung is usually more expensive, but my first choice if I want reliability.

    My Linux SSD is a Samsung, I paid more for slightly better performance and their top reputation for reliability as that is what I use for work. The Windows drive is the Crucial MX, we have a few around the house now and they seem pretty decent drives.

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