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    HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Hi folks - I've just pulled the trigger on a HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na 15.6 Inch Full HD Gaming Laptop
    AMD Ryzen 5 4600H
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (4 GB Dedicated) Graphics
    8 GB RAM
    256 GB SSD
    Windows 10 Home

    Before I start customising it, I'm thinking I should upgrade some of the internals. Chiefly the small NVMe and (once I've got Win10 running) the DDR. I've already had a quick look (inside) as it's pretty easy to access the NVMe, SO-DIMM DDR and 'empty' SSD slot.

    I've been having a look/read about and narrowed down a new NVMe needs to either:
    1. Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive R/W 3200/2000MB/s (SB-RKTQ-1TB)
    2. Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-1TB)
    Can anyone advise?

    I also have a Adata 256gb NVMe in my desktop rig I'm looking to, potentially, upgrade.

    Moreover, I'm also be keen to hear if anyone has any idea how I can transfer the Win10 install to a new NVMe?
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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    The SX8200 PRO is probably worth looking at:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADATA-SX820...mputers&sr=1-1

    However,I would check reviews to see what one runs cooler and consumes less power,as these are important in a laptop.


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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    NVMe drives are all of the muchness in real-world use, so there's not much reason to go with one over the other. The Q drive you're looking at is quad level flash, so poor write speeds in sustained workloads once the triple level cache runs out (after many dozens of gigabytes or so, so probably not that relevant for your use)

    I'd just put a fresh W10 install on the new NVMe if the laptop is still fresh (assuming there's no files you want to keep on it). The licence is tied to the motherboard, so it'll happily register itself.

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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The SX8200 PRO is probably worth looking at:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADATA-SX820...mputers&sr=1-1

    However,I would check reviews to see what one runs cooler and consumes less power,as these are important in a laptop.
    Worth the extra £30? (I will be playing Warhammer Total war on it.)
    I was also thinking of doing the NVMe in a few months, when cheaper perhaps, but changing the whole OS will be a nightmare....

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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    NVMe drives are all of the muchness in real-world use, so there's not much reason to go with one over the other.
    Yes, this is mostly true and headlines performance isn't everything.
    What I tend to look at reputation and endurance.
    And that Sabrent Rockets Q has rather poor TBW at 260TB.
    https://skinflint.co.uk/?cmp=1927167...44&cmp=2180402
    The drive I have is a Corsair MP510 which has 1.7PB (that is 1,700 TB) endurance. As I said not that concerned about the headline read or write especially as I'm running in a PCIe adaptor at PCIe 2.0 (on my ancient Z77 board I would have to drop the GPU to 2.0 to have it running at 3.0).
    The Adata has a lot better endurance but still nothing special. The other Sabrent is - like the Corsair - based on the Phison PS5012-E12 reference design but unsure about the endurance. Sabrent can't even be bother to mention it.

    Of course, when I bought the Corsair it was on offer for under £100...

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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by ERU View Post
    Worth the extra £30? (I will be playing Warhammer Total war on it.)
    I was also thinking of doing the NVMe in a few months, when cheaper perhaps, but changing the whole OS will be a nightmare....
    SSDs often come with drive cloning software. I'm not sure if it's the case for sabrent drives, but crucial ones do. All you need hardware wise is a spare m.2 slot so the laptop can talk to both at the same time, or a USB to m.2 adapter (available cheaply from ebay et al)

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Yes, this is mostly true and headlines performance isn't everything.
    What I tend to look at reputation and endurance.
    And that Sabrent Rockets Q has rather poor TBW at 260TB.
    https://skinflint.co.uk/?cmp=1927167...44&cmp=2180402
    The drive I have is a Corsair MP510 which has 1.7PB (that is 1,700 TB) endurance. As I said not that concerned about the headline read or write especially as I'm running in a PCIe adaptor at PCIe 2.0 (on my ancient Z77 board I would have to drop the GPU to 2.0 to have it running at 3.0).
    The Adata has a lot better endurance but still nothing special. The other Sabrent is - like the Corsair - based on the Phison PS5012-E12 reference design but unsure about the endurance. Sabrent can't even be bother to mention it.

    Of course, when I bought the Corsair it was on offer for under £100...
    I'm also of the opinion that endurance is unlikely to be an issue for consumer use. I ran a 512 GB crucial MX500 (with a mere 72 TB written rated endurance) as a boot drive 2014-2018, and during that time the self reported drive lifetime left dropped to 92%. ~40 years of expected use with a very poor rated endurance by modern standards isn't too bad

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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    I'm also of the opinion that endurance is unlikely to be an issue for consumer use. I ran a 512 GB crucial MX500 (with a mere 72 TB written rated endurance) as a boot drive 2014-2018, and during that time the self reported drive lifetime left dropped to 92%. ~40 years of expected use with a very poor rated endurance by modern standards isn't too bad
    Sure but it's nice that I can do crazy write intensive stuff on that Corsair MP510 without worrying much about whether I'll wear it out.

    Crucial MX100 (2014 release, 72 TBW) was MLC though. TLC or 3D TLC needs a lot more over-provisioning.

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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by ERU View Post
    Worth the extra £30? (I will be playing Warhammer Total war on it.)
    I was also thinking of doing the NVMe in a few months, when cheaper perhaps, but changing the whole OS will be a nightmare....
    I think it is if you want maximum performance,but I would check how hot any of these drives run,and how much power they consume too. The WD SN550 is a DRAMless NVME drive for around £100 but has very consistent performance and is efficient too:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/revi...amless-ssd-yet

    The SX8200 PRO is in the same review. It would be my other choice in your price range - so you need to consider whether its performance or battery life you value more. WD does have a 5 year UK based warranty.


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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    So ... should I just get this?
    ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB M.2 Gaming Solid State Drive (SSD), black
    £127.97


    I'm also looking at these:

    1TB WD Blue™ SN550 NVMe™ PCIe Gen 3 M.2 SSD - 2400/1950MB/s R/W - 5-Year Warranty
    -seems faster than the average NVMe drive, including those with DRAM cache.
    -has potential 5.95% TCB
    -£99.89 With Newsletter Discount @ Western Digital Shop

    Sabrent Rocket Q 2TB NVMe PCIe 3.1 M.2 2280 Internal SSD - 3200/2900MB/s
    -probably too expensive for me but maybe I could be convinced as doub;e the size @2tb
    -Q is the QLC based drive. They're not terrible but aren't as good as TLC drives. For light use you wouldn't notice a difference but QLC drives don't tolerate sustained writes well, once they exceed their cache they slow down to sub mechanical hdd speeds.
    -£219.99 Sold by 1880 UK and Fulfilled by Amazon

    Kingston A2000 SSD - 1TB - PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) TLC- up to 2,200/2,000MB/s R/W- 5-year warranty
    -Kingston seems way down the list... Best to stick to Crucial P1 (below) for best price to performance ratio?
    -£102.71 Delivered @ Ballicom

    Crucial P1 1 TB CT1000P1SSD8 Internal Solid State Drive-up to 2000 MB/s (3D NAND, NVMe, PCIe, M.2)
    -Good drive but the QLC downside is real. I've read that speeds can drop to 14%!
    -£109.49



    Or does anyone have any better recommendations? What's the best price/performance ratio... It's a bit of a minefield...
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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by ERU View Post
    So ... should I just get this?
    ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB M.2 Gaming Solid State Drive (SSD), black
    £127.97


    I'm also looking at these:

    1TB WD Blue™ SN550 NVMe™ PCIe Gen 3 M.2 SSD - 2400/1950MB/s R/W - 5-Year Warranty
    -seems faster than the average NVMe drive, including those with DRAM cache.
    -has potential 5.95% TCB
    -£99.89 With Newsletter Discount @ Western Digital Shop

    Sabrent Rocket Q 2TB NVMe PCIe 3.1 M.2 2280 Internal SSD - 3200/2900MB/s
    -probably too expensive for me but maybe I could be convinced as doub;e the size @2tb
    -Q is the QLC based drive. They're not terrible but aren't as good as TLC drives. For light use you wouldn't notice a difference but QLC drives don't tolerate sustained writes well, once they exceed their cache they slow down to sub mechanical hdd speeds.
    -£219.99 Sold by 1880 UK and Fulfilled by Amazon

    Kingston A2000 SSD - 1TB - PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) TLC- up to 2,200/2,000MB/s R/W- 5-year warranty
    -Kingston seems way down the list... Best to stick to Crucial P1 (below) for best price to performance ratio?
    -£102.71 Delivered @ Ballicom

    Crucial P1 1 TB CT1000P1SSD8 Internal Solid State Drive-up to 2000 MB/s (3D NAND, NVMe, PCIe, M.2)
    -Good drive but the QLC downside is real. I've read that speeds can drop to 14%!
    -£109.49



    Or does anyone have any better recommendations? What's the best price/performance ratio... It's a bit of a minefield...
    Check my previous comment as the review tests the SX8200 PRO and SN550. The SX8200 PRO would be my choice if you want decent performance with consistency. If you value battery life and temperatures,I would get the SN550 and it also has a 5 year UK based warranty.


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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Thanks. I've pulled the trigger on an SX8200

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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    I'm looking at SODIMM DDR next:

    I'm thinking this: Crucial CT2K8G4SFS832A 16 GB kit (8 GB x 2) DDR4,3200 MT / sec, PC4-25600
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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by ERU View Post
    I'm looking at SODIMM DDR next:

    I'm thinking this: Crucial CT2K8G4SFS832A 16 GB kit (8 GB x 2) DDR4,3200 MT / sec, PC4-25600
    @ £64.99
    https://uk.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/c...32a/ct18702033

    The CT2K8G4SFS832A is apparently the listed kit for your laptop,so that RAM you linked to should work according to Crucial.


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    Re: HP Pavilion 15-ec1001na Laptop - NVMe upgrade?

    I can't find any other deals about, so have gone for it.

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