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    NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    I bought a laptop recently which has a Celeron N4020 (Gemini-lake dual-core)

    Comes with a 128gb eMMC drive.

    Now I think it does support NVMe SSD. I know in this scenario the laptop will probably be handicapped by the processor.

    I'm toying with the idea of putting in a small NVMe SSD - Am I optimistic to think that this will provide some performance gain? Given that NVMe is suppose to be more CPU friendly and that it will be fast for pagefiling/virtual memory due to better latency

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    Is it definitely NVMe M.2 SSDs that it supports? A lot of the budget laptops with m.2 slots only support SATA m.2 drives, and small SATA SSDs tend to have severely gimped performance.
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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

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    Is it definitely NVMe M.2 SSDs that it supports? A lot of the budget laptops with m.2 slots only support SATA m.2 drives, and small SATA SSDs tend to have severely gimped performance.
    I thought an m.2 SATA has more memory gates than an eMMC though, so it would still be a faster option?
    I think eMMC has a lower write count too, so would wear out quicker?
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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    If they are the same price,why not??

    But OTH,if it consumes more power it will mean shorter battery life,and it might potentially run hotter. So do some research on the models you are looking at.

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    Quote Originally Posted by protagonist View Post
    I bought a laptop recently which has a Celeron N4020 (Gemini-lake dual-core)

    Comes with a 128gb eMMC drive.

    Now I think it does support NVMe SSD. I know in this scenario the laptop will probably be handicapped by the processor.

    I'm toying with the idea of putting in a small NVMe SSD - Am I optimistic to think that this will provide some performance gain? Given that NVMe is suppose to be more CPU friendly and that it will be fast for pagefiling/virtual memory due to better latency
    Depends on the speed of the MMC - they're usually slower than normal SSDs to getting a small normal SSD would be beneficial - ignore NVMe unless it's free.

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    The main problem with eMMC is short endurance ratings - I have seen situations where it wore out and performance tanked. Any modern SSD should easily outpace it.

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    If it can take an NVMe drive, then that is what I would get. The price penalty over SATA is often minimal once you get into the £50/500GB range.

    I presume a Celeron machine won't have a lot of ram, so you are swapping to that eMMC drive. Swap memory is the sort of task that NVMe excels at, and the sort of thing that wears out SD/eMMC storage.

    Check the Black Friday sales, I think Amazon have started some storage early deals already.

    I have used the WD Blue drives, they are decent no nonsense value drives. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-SN550-.../dp/B07YFF3JCN

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    This is my thought as well. Thing is I bought that laptop on a budget £200.. with a full-HD TN screen! so spending a further £30 on a drive with no additional benefit would make no sense.

    I've experienced the jump from HDD to a SATA SSD and the jump was phenomenal. Unsure if there would be a jump from eMMC esp with some handicapping from the slow processor..

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    I've found that most ultra low power processors can't even read an ssd from USB3, so using nvme is certainly overkill - if anything, just get a cheap one and the more storage space the better for endurance of the device.

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    Re: NVMe for a Celeron - over-kill?

    I've actually been quite impressed with the n4000 (basically the same) and the N4100 (quad core version) you'll never game on it but for basic office/web use it's fine just don't do any multitasking.
    I would say open your laptop up first and check before buying anything, you may well find that your laptop has a place on the motherboard for an m.2 drive but no actual connector soldered on.
    And the eMMC is just 1 or 2 chips soldered onto the motherboard.

    I've just opened up a dell 3190 with that exact situation, ram is soldered on too (only 4gb ) dell do other configurations of the 3190 that do have m.2 and all share the same motherboard pcb, but they don't bother to solder on the m.2 socket on this bottom end model.

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