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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Look at the Doom Eternal results - unless you're running on a budget PCIE 4.0 motherboard, don't bother. On PCI-E 3.0 it's literally half the performance compared to PCI-E 4.0 - using the same card!

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    I was tempted, but then I'd need to update my mobo so another £50...

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    TPU tests over a dozen games with different PCI-E link speeds:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...press-scaling/

    Looking at the performance data generated by this review I suspect that even at PCIe 4.0 x4 there's a significant performance loss for the RX 6500 XT. My estimate would be around 6-10%, which isn't huge, especially in this segment, but it's still performance that could have been easily be achieved for a minimal cost increase. If the cost difference was substantial, everybody would have slimmed down their PCIe interfaces for a long time.

    Averaged over our game test suite, we found a 13% loss in performance when switching from the PCIe 4.0 interface to PCIe 3.0. This will happen to you when running the Radeon RX 6500 XT on an Intel platform that's older than Rocket Lake (10th generation and older). On the AMD side PCIe 3.0 is the fastest option when using first generation Zen processors, or when using lower-end motherboards with cheaper chipsets.

    I also ran a full batch of tests for the RX 6500 XT operating at PCI-Express 2.0 mode, which is a fairly unlikely scenario. I doubt there's still PCs used for serious gaming with that bus speed. It's still an interesting data point for science. Here the performance loss is another 21% vs PCIe 3.0, and 34% in total when compared against the PCI-Express 4.0 baseline.

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Soooo, RTX3050 anyone lol

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    I think if someone really needs a new dGPU its a "better choice" than buying a used dGPU or GTX1050TI for £180,but its still a crap decision to have to make!

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    It is, I'd be happy with something @ 1060/70 ish levels but this release hasn't really helped me!

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Just says available soon now
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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    Just says available soon now
    They sold out in the first 30 minutes:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo
    Hi there

    All supported 6500 XT at the £179.99 promotional MSRP have now sold out which was 280 units.

    The cards will be made available for ordering soon at their regular prices, we have around 1000 in stock but the price will no longer be at a loss (supported) to ourselves and hence they will be priced higher.
    CCL Computer has it listed at £229.99!

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    I presume the reduced PCIe lanes is aimed at laptops. Power usage matters there so fewer lanes is a bonus, and there isn't an upgrade market so PCIe3 speeds aren't a thing.

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    No wonder it has disabled media encode features,look at the power draw:
    https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-radeo...efficiency.png





    This is really bottom barrel silicon being used!

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    I can say £180 in the current market, while poor, this is about the performance I'd expect from a used GPU in that price range. It's poor there's no denying that, failing to even match performance on your previous generations' namesake is just pityful. However we are where we are, and bitching about it with rose tinted glasses isn't of any use in the here and now. It gets you a warranty, lower power consumption, and driver support for the lifetime of the card. 10 series drivers might be retired in another couple of years, but driver support for this is going to be a good 5 years minimum.

    All things considered, in the current market I'd still opt for this over the equivalently priced 2nd hand market GPUs - RX470/480/570 or GTX1050 Ti/1060

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Power spikes close to an RTX2060? A GTX1650 Super has more performance,and less spiky power consumption. If you on an older rig with an older PSU,this might cause problems. Basically you need a PSU which can run an RTX2060 fine with this - I would factor in a newer PSU just in case!



    Yes its better than a secondhand card but this is poorer than Vega64 for me!

    Honestly I think an XBox Series S just looks like a better deal for someone wanting a system to game on.

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    What is even worse is that this is TSMC 6NM which is meant to more efficient!
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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Impossible in these days with everything being totally locked down, but a ThunderBold Xbox Series S/X or PS5 usable as an eGPU would be great hack!

    As for the perf/watt, maybe 6nm has some issues for now but more likely running the card at close to 3GHz comes at a cost. 1.2V too, that's close to a 7970 GHz cramp-those-voltages-up-so-we-lose-to-Nvidia-in-perf-watt-focused-reviews (although of course the 2GB GTX 680 aged very badly). Running at 0.9V this card would probably be under 75W; problem is they skimped on so much already that at 2.5GHz it would underwhelm. This 6nm chip with twice InfinityCache could have been an efficiency champ.

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    As for the perf/watt, maybe 6nm has some issues for now but more likely running the card at close to 3GHz comes at a cost. 1.2V too, that's close to a 7970 GHz cramp-those-voltages-up-so-we-lose-to-Nvidia-in-perf-watt-focused-reviews (although of course the 2GB GTX 680 aged very badly). Running at 0.9V this card would probably be under 75W; problem is they skimped on so much already that at 2.5GHz it would underwhelm. This 6nm chip with twice InfinityCache could have been an efficiency champ.
    It's something to get the processes up and running with minimal cost. Bigger cards will wait until more maturity.

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    Re: RX6500XT 4GB launching tommorrow at 2pm for £180~£200

    I did notice on OCUK that it said promotional RRP, so I expect that initial 280 or so cards they had will be the only ones that will ever be £179, I expect the next price to be closer to £250..

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