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    Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Background

    A few of us still play some of the old Creation Engine based games such as Fallout 4. Annoyingly a lot of reviewers don't seem to test older games anymore,and these generally benefit the most from better single threaded performance,faster memory speeds,etc.

    Fallout 4 tends to be primarily limited by its graphics rendering thread,so higher drawcalls can collapse performance. Many reviews didn't bother testing the game properly in areas with higher drawcalls,which are usually the built up areas. Since Fallout 4 has user built settlements,it can cause very high drawcalls which can even cause performance dips on modern CPUs.

    Another limitation is NPC AI which hogs another thread too,and built up areas and player settlements have another performance limitation.

    However,a few years ago MajinCry on Anandtech forums did start a Fallout4 test thread:
    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads...out-4.2501467/

    This involved testing drawcall performance on different CPUs and dGPUs.Basically it involves using something called an ENB profiler,and it enables you to look at many stats including drawcalls and FPS.

    Since there is no real comparative reviews of the game on newer hardware,I would appreciate if anyone with the time,can run some of the benchmarks which were detailed in this thread. It will involve a bit of faff,but I will describe what you will need to do. If even a few data points can be provided,I would really appreciate it.

    In my case it would certainly influence whether I upgrade to Zen3,or just hold off for a new platform in the future. So Intel benchmarks would be appreciated too!


    Preparation

    Open up the two directories which Fallout 4 uses
    1.)C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games\Fallout4
    2.)steamapps\common\Fallout4

    1.)Fresh Install of Fallout 4 with no mods

    If you already have Fallout 4 installed,and don't want to muck it up,you can force a fresh install by renaming the two Fallout 4 directories to Fallout4Old.

    Then you will find you cannot launch the game from Steam. If you click repair installation,the game will be re-downloaded into a new Fallout 4 directory.

    2.)Launch Fallout 4

    This will create the relevant ini files. Close the launcher down.

    Now look in C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games\Fallout4 for the Fallout4Prefs file. Open it and look for sD3DDevice. Note down what the name is. Mine was sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti".

    3.)Download the relevant test files from the thread over on Anandtech.

    Quote Originally Posted by MajinCry in Anandtech
    There's a couple things you'll need to do, before you can jump in:

    1. Download these two save files, and place them in your "My Games\Fallout4\Saves" folder: https://mega.nz/#!bxljwZiQ!foEekBl-R...bloSsgZNVH8yLw

    2. Backup & replace your .ini files in "My Games\Fallout4" with these: https://mega.nz/#!X88FDB6I!x9FCxGAB7...Q_FPOBZ-zYIsJs

    3. In FalloutPrefs.ini, replace: sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series" with the value from your original FalloutPrefs file.
    In my case I replaced it with "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti".

    Quote Originally Posted by MajinCry in Anandtech
    4. Download and install the latest ENB mod, by placing the files inside the "WrapperVersion" folder, into the same folder as your Fallout4.exe file: http://enbdev.com/mod_fallout4_v0311.htm

    5. Replace the ENB .ini files with these: https://mega.nz/#!3kUHTY7K!GnxkhGoqX...mB5Ys8dcMva048

    6. Disable VSync in your GPU driver settings program
    As with any file check it with your antivirus and antispyware before opening.

    The 4.) step links to an old ENB version which is not listed anymore,so get the latest one:
    http://enbdev.com/download_mod_fallout4.htm

    4.)Unlock the FPS.

    In the Nvidia drivers,you can search for Fallout4 and make sure instead of VSync being on it is turned off.

    Now in the C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games\Fallout4 folder find the Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Pref.ini and change iPresentInterval=0 and save it. Now in the steamapps\common\Fallout 4 folder find Fallout4_Default.ini and do the same. In the steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4 folder the other copy of Fallout4Pref.ini and do the same.

    The profiler window runs at a very low 640X480 resolution,so it maybe ideal to set the desktop resolution to something like 1280X800 just for the test tuns so its easier to see things.

    Once you have done all that start up Fallout4. There will be two saves - the Corvega Plant and Diamond City.

    And once you're in the game:

    1. Load the save(s)

    2. Press Shift+Enter to bring up the ENB overlay

    3. Click on the "Profiler" category. Pan the camera around until you get the same number of draw calls, as the number in the save. So for "Corvega11700draws21fps", try and get as close to 11700 draw calls as possible. Same gig for the DiamondCity save.

    4. Note down your framerate, and number of draw calls.


    For the Corvega save pan the camera around until you get 11700 draw calls and note the FPS. In Diamond City pan the camera around until you get 8000 draw calls and note the FPS.
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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    I'm on a mac and struggle to run anything more than Connect Four but looking forward to seeing some of the results.
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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    I did some tests. The CPU is a Ryzen 7 3700X and the dGPU is an RTX3060TI FE at stock.

    1.)497.09 and 32GB 2666MHZ DDR4

    Diamond City had more fluctuations so did a 3 run average.

    Corvega=53 FPS(Drawcalls=11710)
    Diamond City= 63.43FPS(Drawcalls=8046)

    2.)497.09 and 32GB 3600C16 DDR4

    Corvega=60 FPS(Drawcalls=11700)
    Diamond City= 73.93FPS(Drawcalls=8040)

    3.)511.23 and 32GB 3600C16 DDR4

    Did three runs of each.

    Corvega=63 FPS(Drawcalls=11726.67)
    Diamond City= 73.73FPS(Drawcalls=8013.33)
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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Can this be done on the PC GamePass version of FO4?

    If so, I can provide some data for a 5800X/32GB 3600MHz C16/3080Ti system.
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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Can this be done on the PC GamePass version of FO4?

    If so, I can provide some data for a 5800X/32GB 3600MHz C16/3080Ti system.
    You will need access to the relevant ini files and the ability to use an ENB. I wouldn't know if the Gamepass version has it,but I did buy another copy of Fallout 4 for £3.49 just to use for general testing.

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    You will need access to the relevant ini files and the ability to use an ENB. I wouldn't know if the Gamepass version has it,but I did buy another copy of Fallout 4 for £3.49 just to use for general testing.
    Fairly sure it is possible to install a plain version alongside your existing install but without ModManager handling the Save, Ini, and other folders it might get tricky.

    I did re-buy Morrowind and Oblivion on GOG precisely for this as none of the Wabbajack modlists for those use Wabbajack's "Stock Game" feature.

    Anyway, might as post my results from the retail therapy thread over there too:

    With average it was:
    Corvega = 56.3 FPS (Drawcalls = 11,722.5)
    Diamond City = 65.9 FPS (Drawcalls = 8,025)

    A 3050 is pretty close 50% of a 3060 Ti in overall speed.

    Still thinking of trying some other RAM settings or even PBO, but the above was with my stock Ryzen 5 3600 and PC3200 memory (2 x 32 DDR4 3200 16-20-20-39-74 T1​).

    Currently re-installing everything for my old i5-3570K box before I decide what to do with it (probably sell it locally), and I can test with the Radeon 470 4GB on that.

    A FO4 benchmark stressing NPCs and AI would be a good idea too but it would have to be a load which is repeatable and doesn't use any Mods (aside maybe form ENB like this does).

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    No one?

    On OcUK forums a few members have already posted their Alderlake results.

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Kompukare compiled some results.


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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Some compiled results.


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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Further updates will be posted in the OcUK forums thread:
    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/th...ults.18946938/

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    I managed to get hold of a Ryzen 7 5700X for around £185 so have now got around to testing it with the benchmark. Driver version,ENB version and RAM settings are the same as used here in results number 3:
    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35406797/

    The SSD has changed from a 500GB WD SN700 to a 1.92TB Seagate Firecuda 520.

    The results are an average of three runs as before. In terms of single core speeds - the Ryzen 7 3700X would hit about 4.15GHZ to 4.2GHZ at best,and the Ryzen 7 5700X is 4.65GHZ at best.

    Both CPUs are in an NCase M1 with a low profile Noctua L12S CPU cooler,so probably not the best cooling either.

    Corvega=69FPS(Drawcalls=11724)
    Diamond City=87.67FPS(Drawcalls=8035)

    Corvega is a 9.5% improvement over the Ryzen 7 3700X.
    Diamond City is an 18.9% improvement over the Ryzen 7 3700X.

    I will hopefully get around to reassembling my Core i5 10400F rig with a GTX960 and testing the game on that too.

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    I might give this a go with my 5700G just for laughs

    Saying that will this test work on a 5700G with built in graphics? I see you have to download/modify some files
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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    BTW,kompukare updated the leaderboard a while back with some newer results.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    I might give this a go with my 5700G just for laughs

    Saying that will this test work on a 5700G with built in graphics? I see you have to download/modify some files
    It runs at 640X480 on low settings so it will work fine.

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    First Ryzen 7 5800X3D result in!

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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

    Pretty good.

    I will do mine later today hopefully. Just waiting for a hard drive to arrive as I'm out of space
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    Re: Fallout 4 CPU benchmark thread

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