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    New build for BeamNG

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    My 10yo son's decided he wants a PC in order to play a few games, primarily BeamNG, but the thing is I haven been out of the build game for quite some time (last build had a 4890 GPU). I'd be interested to see what would be a good base build? Is AMD still rocking the CPU space? I'll also be looking to involve him in the build so he learns how everything sits together, so no fancy waterworks or RGB necessary!

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Budget?
    Current most common recommendations (ignoring upcoming 9x000 series) are a B650 and a 7x000 CPU, As for GPU I'm staying out of that: D

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    As always the recommendation will depend on your budget, the resolution you’re playing at, the FPS you what to achieve and the graphic settings you’re comfortable with.

    Given it’s for a 10 year old I’m going to assume it’s a budget build and that 1080p 60+ FPS will be sufficient with high settings.

    As such it’s not a particularly demanding game, if buying new an RX 7600 or RTX 4060 will give excellent results, or if you want to spend less than £200 on the GPU you can look at second hand from CEX or GPused.co.uk – something like a RX 6600 XT will give an excellent experience around £200. If you want to spend sub-£150 the RX 5700 @ £130, or GTX 1660 Ti @ £105 will give reasonable performance at 1080P

    For the CPU there’s tons of options depending on your budget. Do you go end of line, but stable, AM4 platform, or do you bite the bullet and get into AM5 so you have more future upgradability, or do you look at Intel’s LGA1700 platform (Intel 12/13/14th gen – which is also end of line like AM4). Personally, I think at this point, being a long time builder on the AM4 platform with Ryzen 5000 series processors, I think it’s time is over and everyone should be looking at AM5 (A620, B650 and X670 motherboards) with Ryzen 7500F or Ryzen 7600 for entry level builds. The platform is guaranteed support for at least 2 more generations of processors and offers good value as long as you’re not going super budget.

    With that being said, look at Hardware Unboxed’s recent B650 motherboard round-up on youtube. The ASrock B650M Pro RS WiFi did really well and is only £145 new, so for an mATX build I’d probably opt for that. Pair that with either a Ryzen 7600 for about £180 new, or if you can afford to wait a Ryzen 7500F off AliExpress for about £120. The performance difference is minimal.

    32Gb of DDR5 5600 or 6000 speed, keep Cas / CL @ 32 to get the best results. 32Gb preferably, but you can get away with 16Gb if you need to reduce costs.

    Thermalright are offering the best value on CPU coolers right now, with excellent performance. The Thermalright Peerless Assassin is the go to, but the Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 EVO is a superb looking tower cooler for about £17.50 on Amazon

    PSU wise, stick with the good brands – Seasonic Focus range, Corsair RM series, Superflower. Check the PSU Tier list on LTT forums. As a general rule should to be looking at £15 per 100W. 600W PSU is more than ample. Seasonic is my recommendation, and it should have a 5 year warranty minimum, ideally 7+ years.

    Storage – NVME only. So easy, so fast, no wires. Amount is up to you, but I’d suggest 1Tb minimum so there’s some spare for other stuff. Aim for a Gen4 drive with 5000Mbps read speeds, although practically there’s not much really world difference in general use between 3500Mbps and above.

    There’s a lot of new options with regards to cases, and obviously it’s mostly personal preference, and you should check out GamersNexus’ recent new case round up from Computex (video come out at the end of June). I always like Phanteks cases. Lian Li, Antec, and Fractal Design also have some really nice new designs, as well SSUPD (made by Lian Li), others have nice options too – Corsair, Coolermaster, NZXT, Thermalright. Then there’s the new “super budget” brand who are really gaining momentum in the case market like Montech, who also have some excellent cases. Brands like Ionz have some nice cases, but the build quality generally isn’t as good.

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    or if you want to go really budget friendly then check the classifieds to see if someone is selling most of a 10th Gen i5 setup #ahem#
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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_B View Post
    Budget?
    Current most common recommendations (ignoring upcoming 9x000 series) are a B650 and a 7x000 CPU, As for GPU I'm staying out of that: D
    BUdget probably about £600...

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    As always the recommendation will depend on your budget, the resolution you’re playing at, the FPS you what to achieve and the graphic settings you’re comfortable with.

    Given it’s for a 10 year old I’m going to assume it’s a budget build and that 1080p 60+ FPS will be sufficient with high settings.

    As such it’s not a particularly demanding game, if buying new an RX 7600 or RTX 4060 will give excellent results, or if you want to spend less than £200 on the GPU you can look at second hand from CEX or GPused.co.uk – something like a RX 6600 XT will give an excellent experience around £200. If you want to spend sub-£150 the RX 5700 @ £130, or GTX 1660 Ti @ £105 will give reasonable performance at 1080P

    For the CPU there’s tons of options depending on your budget. Do you go end of line, but stable, AM4 platform, or do you bite the bullet and get into AM5 so you have more future upgradability, or do you look at Intel’s LGA1700 platform (Intel 12/13/14th gen – which is also end of line like AM4). Personally, I think at this point, being a long time builder on the AM4 platform with Ryzen 5000 series processors, I think it’s time is over and everyone should be looking at AM5 (A620, B650 and X670 motherboards) with Ryzen 7500F or Ryzen 7600 for entry level builds. The platform is guaranteed support for at least 2 more generations of processors and offers good value as long as you’re not going super budget.

    With that being said, look at Hardware Unboxed’s recent B650 motherboard round-up on youtube. The ASrock B650M Pro RS WiFi did really well and is only £145 new, so for an mATX build I’d probably opt for that. Pair that with either a Ryzen 7600 for about £180 new, or if you can afford to wait a Ryzen 7500F off AliExpress for about £120. The performance difference is minimal.

    32Gb of DDR5 5600 or 6000 speed, keep Cas / CL @ 32 to get the best results. 32Gb preferably, but you can get away with 16Gb if you need to reduce costs.

    Thermalright are offering the best value on CPU coolers right now, with excellent performance. The Thermalright Peerless Assassin is the go to, but the Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 EVO is a superb looking tower cooler for about £17.50 on Amazon

    PSU wise, stick with the good brands – Seasonic Focus range, Corsair RM series, Superflower. Check the PSU Tier list on LTT forums. As a general rule should to be looking at £15 per 100W. 600W PSU is more than ample. Seasonic is my recommendation, and it should have a 5 year warranty minimum, ideally 7+ years.

    Storage – NVME only. So easy, so fast, no wires. Amount is up to you, but I’d suggest 1Tb minimum so there’s some spare for other stuff. Aim for a Gen4 drive with 5000Mbps read speeds, although practically there’s not much really world difference in general use between 3500Mbps and above.

    There’s a lot of new options with regards to cases, and obviously it’s mostly personal preference, and you should check out GamersNexus’ recent new case round up from Computex (video come out at the end of June). I always like Phanteks cases. Lian Li, Antec, and Fractal Design also have some really nice new designs, as well SSUPD (made by Lian Li), others have nice options too – Corsair, Coolermaster, NZXT, Thermalright. Then there’s the new “super budget” brand who are really gaining momentum in the case market like Montech, who also have some excellent cases. Brands like Ionz have some nice cases, but the build quality generally isn’t as good.
    That's most comprehensive, thanks very much, much appreciated...

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    MIght have to revisit that budget... Maybe I'll get the boy to save his pocket money...

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Do you fancy a road trip Smudger - I have the following PC I will be selling for £575 soon:

    CPU - Ryzen 5600
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    GPU - RTX 3060 Ti 8Gb (MSI Gaming X model)
    STORAGE - 1Tb NVME Fanxiang S690Q - 5000Mbps (brand new) fitted with heat sink
    PSU - Corsair RM650 (650W Gold)
    CASE - Corsair 4000X iCUE RGB fitted with 6x aRBB fans (3 front stock SP120, 3 Corsair LL120, which are £17 new new)
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    Windows 10 Pro or Windows 11 Pro - your choice, activated

    I can do it for £575 collected (Sheffield S26)

    Couple of photos, but it's fitted with a Zotac GTX 1080 in the pics...

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    £600 is a good budget, without a GPU though :/

    A very quick scroll through Scan (so some parts will be better priced potentially elsewhere or 2nd hand obviously)

    7600 (includes Wraith Stealth) - £190
    Seasonic G12GM-750W - £85
    Asrock B650M-HDV M.2 - £110
    32GB 6000 CL36 - £110
    1TB Kioxia M.2 - £56
    NZXT H5 Flow - £75

    So £623 ish all in minus the GPU

    You could easily save on CPU going 2nd hand, the case by choosing something cheaper, the RAM you could go to CL30 for a few extra quid, decent cooler can be bought down the line when funds allow.

    You then have headroom for a faster 7x00 CPU or 9x000 somewhere down the line again.

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Much appreciated, guys. I'm actually gauging how serious he is at the mo, he tends to get things into his head for a while then lose interest. I guess getting him to save would help us see how serious he is... All the answers here have been a handy guide as to what's current and what I should be looking for.

    I wouldn't mind but he only wants it for BeamNG, which is what he sees people playing on Youtube, and it's PC-only.

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Maybe have a look around and see what is for sale locally second hand. It's not a very taxing game and if he just wants it for that pretty much anything will do. I mean the recommended graphics card is a 970!
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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    Its tough, as it my 8 year old has a 3700x, B550, 16GB ram, Vega 56, 1tb NVME + 2tb HD, RM750 PSU (refurb unti).

    He loves it and is a PC gamer now with no interest in consoles, works through my old steam libaray and picking up lego games for £2-3 each.

    With that its original spec was an AMD 8320, 16gb DDR3, R9 290, 256gb ssd and 1tb hd, basically a spare parts build to see if it would stick and get used, to which it did.

    Potentially go as cheap as possible (pre built) and don't worry too much about upgrade paths and go from there.

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    Re: New build for BeamNG

    If you do want to go budget then give me a shout, as I mentioned I have almost a full PC as my son upgraded so just trying to get a bit of money back for him, if it'd all fit in 1 box it'd be under a couple of hundred with GPU or use that saved cash to pick up a decent one. He's been using it for gaming and played a lot heavier stuff than BeamNG

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