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I was thinking of investing in a full water cooling setup for my Socket A based Beast, but as i never used to have enougth money to buy any items of water cooling i am not familiar with the terms, and the parts for water cooling.
And so i was wondering if anyone could list the items i'll need for a full water cooling setup.
Thanks for any help...
For a basic setup just cooling the CPU, you will want:
A Waterblock for Sckt A systems (this is the bit that sits ontop of the CPU)
Water pump (you can get specialist computer water pumps or pond/aquarium pumps)
Radiator (again you can get a specialist computer watercooling radiator or a heatercore from a car)
A fan for the said radiator
you'll also want some hose clips, something to break the water surface tension e.g anti freeze, maybe something to prevent kill algae)
swiftech 6002-A CPU block £31
Nova Heater Core £25 online of about £10 from an autospares store
Eheim 1048/DangerDen 12V-D4 Pump £35-50
about £30 more to get 1/2" tubing, hoseclips and a fan to fit the heatercore, etc..
YOu also have the choice of using (buying or making) a resevoir or just using a T-line to fill/bleed the system.
Only problem with that kit is he needs to mod on the correct size inlet/ outlet and buy/ make a shroud on the heatercore etc. If you're wanting something that requires no modification to the components, you can't go wrong with this type of setup, trust me when i say it's better to go the extra mile in terms of quality:
Hydor L30 - ~£30
Danger Den Maze4/ TDX (Socket A) - ~£30
Danger Den Maze4 GPU? - ~£30
HWLabs BIX - ~£40
Danger Den Bayres - ~£15
Panaflo L1A 120MM - ~£10
1/2" ID Tubing - ~£7
Here's some links for you:
www.coolercases.co.uk
www.watercoolingshop.com
Setting it up is pretty self-explanitory, cut the hose to size and keep the cuts straight, those clippers to prune rose bushes work really well. Remove your components and leak test for ~24 hours after filling the system with de-ionised water and a coolant such as Water Wetter/ Zerex. Once all is good pop the components back in and make sure everything is ok and you've got yourself a high-end kit. You're looking ~30°C load for your average 2500 Mobile :D
I don't come by Hexus often but if you want anymore advice e-mail me or something or get along to Bit-Tech :D
Gl
LEEUMH:
What Inlet/outlet needs modding? everything will be 1/2" inluding the heatercore, I am yet to come accross one with smaller or larger out/inlets than 1/2"
A heatercore will cool better than a standard 120.1 computer radiator, but i'll agree something like a BIX will be simpler. Although its still likely he'll be making his own shroud unless he wants to pay for one.
I would go for the swiftech block or the DD LRWW over the maze4. good call on the panflow fan though. If you don't go for this fan make sure whatever fan you do get is 38mm thick rather than 25mm. The 38mm create more static pressure.
Have you seen any reported improvement in temps using WaterWetter over standard Auto antifreeze?
Thanks for all your help guys, will be trawling the net for the lowest prices.
P.S. LeeumH, can you list what the components are i.e. water pump etc.
Hydor L30 - ~£30
Danger Den Maze4/ TDX (Socket A) - ~£30
Danger Den Maze4 GPU? - ~£30
HWLabs BIX - ~£40
Danger Den Bayres - ~£15
Panaflo L1A 120MM - ~£10
1/2" ID Tubing - ~£7
Because its almost another language to me...
Thanks for your still though...
For that kind of money you could almost get a zalman reserator which is nearly completely silent and a lot easier to set up. Won't give you the uberperformance of the custom rig it has to be admitted.
Any help?Quote:
Originally Posted by BEANFro Elite
Hydor L30 - ~£30 -> Water Pump
Danger Den Maze4/ TDX (Socket A) - ~£30 -> CPU block
(@LeeUmh: where can you get those for 30, i think the cheapest is ~40)
Danger Den Maze4 GPU? - ~£30 -> GPU (graphic card) block
HWLabs BIX - ~£40 -> aka Black Ice Extreme, the radiator
(@LeeUmh : isn't this thing use 1/2'' OD tubing with push-on connector)
Danger Den Bayres - ~£15 -> Reservoir
Panaflo L1A 120MM - ~£10 -> Fan
1/2" ID Tubing - ~£7 -> Don't think it needs explanation.
Or why not go for this:-
http://www.xcase.co.uk/acatalog/Cool...uidcooler.html
Will cool everything (except your HDD); you might have a bit of a struggle with the graphics card one though. But all sealed and non-conductive (see CPC issue 19)
^^This guy beat me to it, he hit the nail on the head too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Voralberg
A BIX can be ordered with 1/2" or 3/8" fittings.
The Maze4 CPU block can be ordered here for £33.99. To help with costs it might pay you to get over to Bit-Tech Forums, sign up and post 75 non-spammy posts and then you'll be able to view the For Sale Forums. Post yourself a wanted and i can almost guarantee you'll find most of that kit, i got my Maze4 from there for £20 and it had only been leak tested :devilish:
Hehe, i must try, only have ~5 post in bittech so far.
can i suggest the zalman cpu block as at performs well and, most importantly, is compatable with sock A, 754, 939, pent 4 AND comes with 1/2 and 3/8 fittings. Saves you the cost of a new waterblock when you upgrade ur rig.
what do you mean nealry silent??? it is silent - apart from the tapping of the water flow indicator.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertirwin
best cooling purchase ive made. its great for ppl who want to test the water :inquisiti in the water cooling area
How about the performance, any better than air cooling ???
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Voralberg
if i was to tell you that my old thermaltake volcano 11 cooled my athlon 2000+ at 50 deg idle / 60 load and the reserator is cooling my P4 2.8GHz at 30 deg idle, 33 load, would you read anything into it?
But compared to a Danger Den setup...;)
Well, common, these people want silence and beauty Leeum, ocing is a different story. And by the way, your silver case mod on Bittech is very nice.
Thanks alot :D
Pump - Hydor's have reliability issues. I'd suggest an eheim or laing (DD/swiftech) pump. The DD D4 (AKA swiftech MCP650) is a solid pump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Voralberg
CPU block - get the TDX of those two, the maze 4 is getting on a bit and is has inferior performance.
Rad - a heatercore is cheaper and likely better performing, but a BIX is easier to set up. Depends how much effort you want to expend.
Tubing - clearflex or tygon are the one's to look out for, they are higher quality tubes. Cheap stuff will work, but probably won't last as well and is much less flexible.
also:
www.overclock.co.uk www.over-clock.co.uk are two sites which carry a lot of WC gear.
www.watercoolingshop.com also has a wide range and generally cheaper than other places.
Whilst we're on the subject:
How noisey is a watercooled system? - can't you hear the pump??
Won't you still need fans to cool the rest of the computer? Can you cool the GFX chip etc....
Is their an advantage to using water cooling for those who don't overclock? -quiter??
If you put the pump on a foam or something like that, it's not likely you gonna hear anything. And 12v pump can be controlled, like fan, as long as the controller is adequate.
You can cool a Gfx chip, of course, and NB. You could always use silent fan for other stuff. The reserator is a perfect example of quiet wc :D