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    Glad I got mine when I did then!

    I don't think you can really compare a TFT directly to a CRT though, can you? They both have pros and cons. If you are a heavy gamer, I would think at the moment, CRT's are better for you, but that's just my opinion and many thinks that's always wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen
    Glad I got mine when I did then!

    I don't think you can really compare a TFT directly to a CRT though, can you? They both have pros and cons. If you are a heavy gamer, I would think at the moment, CRT's are better for you, but that's just my opinion and many thinks that's always wrong!
    Nar, i agree with you, its hard to directly compare them, but we dont really have a choice considering these will be replacing CRT's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent
    Its ashame all major CRT production stops this year
    Yeah, but I wouldn't fret. CRT technology has hardly advanced at all for years, albeit that prices have continued to drop steadily. Four or so years ago I paid £200 for a 17" Samsung 753DF and thought it was a good deal. Now you can pick up a flatscreen 19" for under £100 new. More and more people and companies will be getting rid of their CRTs over the next couple of years. I doubt a 22" Mitsubishi tubed monitor will be worth more than £150 secondhand a year from now, and that's about as good as CRTs get. I know a guy who pulled two working 19" monitors out of a skip last week. The point I'm trying to make is that yes CRT production might be ending, but there will be no shortage of them for years and years, and by the time production does end LCDs will be good and cheap enough to be a decent replacement. I'm in no hurry to replace my Cornerstone P1500, but I don't live in fear of the day it dies.

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    My viewsonic VP201b just doesn't have ghosting, and the colour accuracy is superb, there's no way I'm going to go back to CRT's, especially seeing as LCD tech has pretty much caught CRT up, and won't be long before it surpasses it..
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    Lol.. even more peeps on both side of the fence!

    So, my options remain:

    1. Keep it. Get Used to it. Live in the knowledge that all those lovely carefully rendered NV40 frames are getting blurred to death before I get to see them.

    2. Send the TFT back. Save myself a couple hundred £ (if not more), and try to find a suitable high end CRT.


    What are the options for CRT's nowadays? I've always been a fan of Iiyama (Mitsi tubes), but their latest and greatest seem to have mixed reviews.


    I'll be honest and tell you that the 17" CRT monitor I came from was an old dog, but it was a Diamontron tube, and the colours were spot on, and it kept up the pace running 75Hz at 1600x1200..

    Am I being silly? Would I kill myself once I see even a decent CRT and wonder why the hell I dropped the TFT? What do ya rekon?


    I need mind control people... and quickly! lol...
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    EDIT: A final question: Why was I so unimpressed with the image quality when I tried the 2405 with DSUB? You think it was because I've seenwhat the panel was capable of with DVI or is it just that all analogue looks that bad? I'm sure top CRT's don't have that issue of quality, so why did the 2405 when being fed analogue?
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    my advice to you

    don't impulse buy in the over £100 region

    you are merely torturing yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen B
    my advice to you

    don't impulse buy in the over £100 region

    you are merely torturing yourself
    LOL!

    The 2405 wasn't an impulse buy, but it was a leap of faith into TFT technology, and I sooooo wish Dell had storefronts here so I could have checked it out first.

    I am not disputing that this is a beautiful and crispy panel, but something doesn't feel right - and sure - I feel a bit silly about it having blown so much cash on it.

    It's not like I don't have options for the next few days to decide, it's just that I can't make my mind up because I don't have enough experience of alternatives - and certainly no stores around here stock £400+ CRT's to go and play Half Life 2 on...


    Arrggghh... ho ho ho..
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    How long do you have before you can return it, if you can that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen
    How long do you have before you can return it, if you can that is?
    7 days from delivery - so until end of Monday to phone them up and say that I want to return it. It is a fantastic Dell policy, but the last thing I want to do is send it back, only to realise that I should have kept it. Lol.

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    I would stick with the TFT.

    Also philips (i think) have made a new CRT which is made of lots of smaller ones. They are much thinner than normal CRTs and have the benefits of CRTs. They can also be made much larger. will they actaully get produced at a reasonable price.. who knows.

    I think samsung has also made something like this.

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    If I were you I'd stick with the TFT as well. (and if I were I'd have got a smaller and cheaper tft, but that's beside the point ).

    My dad's got the 22" Iiyama (20" viewable), and as nice as it is, I still prefer my 17" aria TFT. I noticed a bit of ghosting at first but got used to it quickly. The benefits of a TFT outway the bad points greatly IMO - More desk space, sharper picture, nowhere near as heavy (the iiyama is a beast!), far less power consumption, and most of all they are easy on the eyes.

    If you're feeling like you've spent too much money, you could return it and get a 2001fpw...

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    I can see ghosting on a 12ms TFT. I'm not going LCD for my self untill my 21" CPD-E540 dies and I can get a low single diget response time 20"+ LCD for 200 bucks or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuzgib
    ...My dad's got the 22" Iiyama (20" viewable), and as nice as it is, I still prefer my 17" aria TFT. I noticed a bit of ghosting at first but got used to it quickly.
    Ahh.. so you've seen the Iiyama I was eyeing before I got the TFT then? And you can honestly say you don't mind knowing that what you're seeing is mushier on the Aria than it would be on the Iiyama?

    Quote Originally Posted by skuzgib
    ...If you're feeling like you've spent too much money, you could return it and get a 2001fpw...
    Lol... Yeah it does sound like that I guess.. But no, I'm okay with the cost - I just feel a bit let down by the technology that's all.

    I still haven't got a clue which way to jump - It's just nagging me in the back of my mind that it is an blatantly imperfect picture for soooo much money.


    I don't wanna turn this in to an argument and I wouldn't be making such a big thing of it, had I not only a few days to decide! We've got equal-ish votes here people - keep it coming!
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    By god, please tell me I don't prefer a 6 year old 17" Trinitron tubed CRT to my shiny new 2405? Please. I must be mad.

    The CRT is duller, and smaller, but my word - the blacks are BLACK, and on screen movement is smooth and crisp.

    Is there anything wrong I could be doing with the TFT? Refresh rates? DVI Sync? Whatever - is there anything that would be making it do what I'm seeing? Cos at the moment, I'm 75% towards sending it back.. ARRGGHHHH! I must be nuts.


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    Send your tft back please. If you still don't know that you want it,,,,you don't!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMagician
    By god, please tell me I don't prefer a 6 year old 17" Trinitron tubed CRT to my shiny new 2405? Please. I must be mad.
    You send that back and Im changing your name to the mad magician and given you a slap with a wet haddock.

    Its a leap you have made, and its a leap that will eventually be done by everyone.

    I personally love the panel, but I have used a TFT for over three years now and am totally used to the way they are....

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