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Well the time has come and i need to overclock my pathetic 2000+.
ive upgraded just about everything so i can better my gaming skills but the processor is the thing that lets me down.
so i went into bios to just check the temperatures and im a little worried.
System Temperature is 28C
CPU Temperature is 58C
and this is without me fiddling with it what so ever.....should i be a little worried as this does seem a little bit warm than i first expected.
Well...
What CPU is it? 2000+ doesn't say whether it's 0.13u (tbred) or not. Older (palamino) cores have ceramic packages (the bit between the core and the pins) whereas all tbreds (AFAIK) have 'organic' packages - sort of like compressed cardboard and same as socket 370 coppermine and tualatin P3s and celerons. If it is a tbred then yes it is running hot (assuming your mobo / BIOS is reading it right). What heatsink / fan have you got on the CPU? Is it caked in dust? Is the fan still spinning OK? Is the heatsink mounted properly with the proper amount of thermal grease between it and the CPU core? (i.e. not very much at all but a thin even layer covering the whole of the cpu core - see this: http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...ions_small.htm for reference)
If it turns out to be a palomino, you'll be lucky to get more than an extra 100MHz out of the chip imo, not much gain should be expected even with more vcore and to overclock the multiplier you'd need to unlock it. With a t'bred b 2000+ it should be possible to gain an extra 300+ MHz.
yeah when i get a spare 5 mins ill open it up and see if the 4 pins are linked or not...
i havent modified the computer at all...just a bog standard fan that came with the unit.
i am planning on buying a heat sinc and a new fan with a pipe to channel all the heat out of the case.
just out of interest where do i find the multiplier option.....coz i went in to bios and i couldnt find it.
i wont be doing any long term OC until i invest in a new fan.
Depends what motherboard you're running but on most it tends to be in the same section as the option to change the FSB.
You can check what type of CPU you have in windows using cpu-z:
http://www.cpuid.org/index.php
Belarc Advisor will provide you with makes & model numbers of hardware too.
And Speedfan will give you real-time temp readouts in your systray.
These are my default settings and i have championship manager 4 running in background
Hmonitor Version 4.2.1.2 Pro
(Trial)
H/W diagnostics info:
Windows XP Personal Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1
M/B Chipset: VIA KM266
Main Sensor: W83697hf
ISA port used: 290
SMB port used: 5000
1st sensor: Thermistor 0
2nd sensor: Transistor 1
3rd sensor: Thermistor 0
CPU ID:0-6-8-0
BrandName:AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
Internal Freq=1,679.0 MHz
External Freq=134.32 MHz
SystemBus Freq=268.6 MHz DDR
Multiplier=12.5
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
Board model: MS-6390
Version:
BIOS vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS version: 6.00 PG, Release date: 03/20/2003
Thermo control configuration:
Full Throttle:100.0%
CPU Low Power mode:N
Win 95/98 Idle Control:N
Device:None Throttle:25.0% Enable at:70.0°C Disable at:65.0°C
Monitored data values:
Mainboard=27.0°C
CPU1=64.0°C
CPU2=xx.x°C
Power=2934 rpm
CPU=4500 rpm
N/A=0 rpm
+12V=+11.92V
+5V=+4.76V
Core=+1.57V
I/O=+3.33V
-12V=-12.61V
-5V=-5.35V
Aux=+x.xxV
HDD1 (ST3120023A 3.33) temp=42.0°C
i think im in depserate need of a fan?lol ok
im thinking of placing a heat sink on top of the processor linking that up to a tube or pipe or something then drilling a whole out the back/side so warm air can escape without circling around inside the unit.
is this a good idea?
ok it is a thoroughbred 0.13u but before i do anything i have to sort out this temp coz i think my cpu is frying by just playing a few games and doing menial tasks :(
i would suggest that you replace the heatsink and get some new thermal paste(arctic silver 5 recommended)
download and run cpu-z and post a screenshot of it on here so we can see the fill info on the cpu(search google)
Socket A Athlons can run with a die temperature of 85-90C, so that's not too hot.
AMD Thermal Guide
My Thoroughbred 0.13um 2400+ runs similar to yours: System 32C, CPU 64C, running Folding@Home 24/7. 100% stable. :rockon:
Is your heatsink full of dust? If so, take a hoover to it, that should drop your temps:).
As for OCing though, KM266 chipset boards tend to have few or no overclocking options. If the processor is unlocked you can increase the multiplier/voltage with a pin-mod.
ok well ill take to it with a hoover in a moment......and this thermal grease stuff...im relatively new to all this and have never used it but i guess you put it in between the processor and the heat sink?
im going to buy a new sink sometime..might buy one today from a shop or order it today online.
which sink you think would suit me best? 20 to 30 quid would be ideal!
well ive had another look in bios for options to change the multiplier and i cant find anything on it :( so i guess without that i cant do nothing.
*on the laptop now....hoovering the inerds of the pc.
For 20 quid you should be able to get something pretty pukka like a Thermalright SLK-900. Like I say though, hoovering out the dust can sometimes drop temps by 10 degrees or more:eek:.
As for the OCing, the processor is a Tbred-A and so probably won't OC that much further. My XP1700 got up to 1.83GHz on 1.79V. You can increase the multipliers by doing a pin mod. See the guide at www.ocinside.de , it's a bit fiddly but otherwise pretty straightforward if you take your time. Just increase the multi by .5 at a time and then test stability with Prime95.
Edit: didn't initially spot it was a Tbred-A:o
hmmm ok well i gave it a proper clean out and the heat sink was absolutely full of dust.....my temps now run at mainboard 33C and CPU at 51C so its done quite a bit of difference.
my Counterstrike source gaming has improved a lil and the small room with the pc is a lot cooler now.....strange huh!
well im gna have to much with the pins.....i guess i have to take the sink off?looks quite tricky but ill read up on it first of course.
you guys been good to me :)
I personally use the wire in socket method. You take out the CPU and put little loops of wire into the socket holes which has the effect of joining the two pins together. Tweezers are a big help when doing this, but I usually lose mine and have to do it with my fingers:rant:.