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    Yep. Every time they have another chip revision (C0, CG, D0, E0, E4, ect) they BIOS needs to be updated to recognize the chip. Sometimes they can plan ahead a bit, but usually not.

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    I see that makes perfect sense, think I might give this a board a miss in that case and pick up a DFI

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    good call kinkladze! I'll let you know how i get on with my setup, if you get yours done before mone please let me know how you get on too?

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    ok, i had this problem using my asus a8v deluxe and my winchester cpu

    what fixed it wsa putting a stick of ram in slot 3 only and holding f2 when powering the system on, it allowed me to flash and all has been well since

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    Can i just ask, where is the 3700+ san at scan, i can only see the 3800+
    Anyone know if the DFI nforce4 ultra will work out of the box?
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    I'm pretty sure scan don't have the 3700+, because searching "3700" beings up the S754 one, but not a san diego one. Chances are the DFI board will need a BIOS flash, most (all?) boards seem to...the DFI seems not to work out of the box most of the time anyway though

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    well ill have to get the mobo and cpur from dabs, poor scan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey
    which "sales" member of staff working for a reseller (any reseller) is going to suggest to a random body on the phone, a manual bios flash? to inform him that the bios "may" need updating is sensible but the customer on the end of the line may be a 13 year old boy whos buying his first system as a project, and you say that Scan dont know what there doing because they didnt recommend to afore mentioned 13 year old, to manually flash the board? they cannot and do not recommend that any customer flash the bios as should this go wrong depending on circumstances the customer may well void his warranty this is why they do not and thus did not recommend a manual flash, if any customer wishes to flash there bios most mainstream boards now come with some form of live update for the bios.

    on the other hand someone like yourself can advise whatever you like under some pseudonym can tell someone to flash it with an old P2 bios happily with no comeback your so brave
    Ah right, so its ok to assume hes a 13 year old non-techie, but how about if i was a competant IT literate whom would resent paying £10~ postage just to have them do exactly the same thing at their end?

    Also despite your grumblings i actually tried to help the chap as i have an Asus A8V and had to do exactly the same proceedure for my San Diego, which is actually detailed in my manual.

    So hush.

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    how do u no the 13year old is not a computer whizz.
    lmao
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    Indeed, thats why we use the word assume, and assumption is the mother of all...



    Eitherway i trust he managed to sort it OK?

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    Scan have told me the San diego put will be in stock on tuesday next week. Not sure about the DFI mobo though, i didnt ask.

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    they dont do dfi
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    get the dfi nf4 ultra d and the 3700.

    i got mine yesterday even with the jan bios it booted up then i just flashed it to a newer bios,no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzyo99
    Ah right, so its ok to assume hes a 13 year old non-techie, but how about if i was a competant IT literate whom would resent paying £10~ postage just to have them do exactly the same thing at their end?

    Also despite your grumblings i actually tried to help the chap as i have an Asus A8V and had to do exactly the same proceedure for my San Diego, which is actually detailed in my manual.

    So hush.
    A) the shop are the ones who will lose if they recommend this procedure and it goes wrong and B) it's ridiculous to expect the staff of a shop to know every last detail of every last product that they sell.

    You could have just given your advice (which was helpful) without going into an entirely random and unjustified rant about the retailer.

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    They do some DFI mobos, just not in AMD 939. Im sure they will stock them soon, its a great board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rave
    A) the shop are the ones who will lose if they recommend this procedure and it goes wrong and B) it's ridiculous to expect the staff of a shop to know every last detail of every last product that they sell.

    You could have just given your advice (which was helpful) without going into an entirely random and unjustified rant about the retailer.
    A) I don't recall making a ridiculous rant, but i expect people within the industry to be able to make educated decisions. They had the exact same problems when the Winchester was released with a lot of boards and therefore should be able to advise over the phone about the options available:

    1) To boot via the floppy.
    2) To return it to the retailer.
    3) To actually research the issue and get back to the customer.

    Now forgive me for my mindless demonic rants, but i don't think 1,2 or 3 represent a massive amount of work for the retailer to know about, or have the resources to find out.

    To many companies see that consumers have a rough deal after paying up £xxx and being left at the wayside. Not claiming this represents only Scan, in fact i can heartily recommend Overclockers UK if you want bad service but i feel that retailers should have a better grasp of after sales support, be it helping to cover return postage on such issues or to be able to accurately guide a person through the process whilst on the phone.

    A lot to ask? I think not.

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