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    Right I've cleared the array. I'm at the stage where I'm thinking I'l just backup my documents and then format all disks. It will probably be easier that way, and I don't have that much on anyways, so I can just reinstall games etc.

    Unless of course there are better ideas?
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    You must have had a virus or something on your machine. Normally Repair would fix the problem of a missing or damaged system file...............???!!??!!

    Well you've done the right thing, give us a shout if you need any more help.

    Cheers and good luck!

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    No you didn't have a virus. If you must run a Raptor (or any SATA array) with a very high FSB you really should use a seperate RAID card. Most people who extreme overclock do not use SATA because it doesn't help most benchmarks and SATA drives get corrupted very easily on A64's with high FSB's.

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    Oh right, didnt know that one. Cheers

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    Reinstall went fine, and at present I am running 230 FSB , 5xHTT and everything is running fine (just over 2.5ghz)

    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    No you didn't have a virus. If you must run a Raptor (or any SATA array) with a very high FSB you really should use a seperate RAID card. Most people who extreme overclock do not use SATA because it doesn't help most benchmarks and SATA drives get corrupted very easily on A64's with high FSB's.
    So what would you recommend as the max FSB without corruption? Also can you recommend a seperate RAID card? And would it make any difference if I used the A8N's Silicon RAID chip instead of the standard one?
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    Nice to see your up and running again

    Is that at stock voltage on the CPU or has it been increased ?

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    Well I left the voltage at auto, so I presume that it hasn't been increased? What is stock voltage on the A8N anyway?
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    if you want to check your voltage i think cpuid will tell you an accurate value. The stock voltage is 1.4V i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDL
    Reinstall went fine, and at present I am running 230 FSB , 5xHTT and everything is running fine (just over 2.5ghz)



    So what would you recommend as the max FSB without corruption? Also can you recommend a seperate RAID card? And would it make any difference if I used the A8N's Silicon RAID chip instead of the standard one?
    Usually the Sil controller is more resistant to causing a problem with corruption. Something to do with the nVidia chipset controller and the Hypertransport buss.

    How high (FSB) is safe? It really depends on two things...

    1) How lucky you are (some boards handle a higher FSB without corruption than others), and...

    2) How much do you like reformatting and OS installing?

    Most extreme overclockers don't use SATA when trying for highest possible overclocks. The few who do usually use a seperate card (especially with A64s). At any rate, if you plan on running 215MHz or higher I'd use a Highpoint Rocket Raid card.

    It's not just a matter of a locking busses. The Hypertransport causes problems with SATA when running high FSBs. I'd use PATA if overclocking over 215MHz and running the onboard controller.

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    I ran at 275 x 9 on Prime95 for 24 hours and it was fine, so I'l try 9.5 tonight. The HTT is at 2 just for testing, and Vcore = 1.500, VDimm=1.85. Going well right now.
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    Can I transfer my RAID disks over to the Highpoint Rocket RAID Card, or do I have to redo them? Also, if I'm running Prime95 fine for a day, does that guarantee I'l be OK, or can corruption happen in the future?
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    I havent seen anyone mention memtest86+ or anything... sounds to me that by overclocking your fsb, your ram is unstable (when under heavy load) and corrupted your disk..

    Prime95 doesnt really test much other than the cpu iirc, and mem/memcontroler is usually whats holding amd64 chips back..

    If not.. sata corruption is quite common on intergrated chips.. iirc they dont share the same pci lock as the pci slots get..

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    It's always best to partition and format the drives with the controller you will be using normally, so yes on the redo. If you're running SATA with 220MHz or higher FSB you really need to have a PCI RAID controller to insure data integrity.

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    My memory is fine, it's supposed to work at these speeds.

    I have a problem now. The new BIOS 1009-02 has a flaw. The DRAM timings and the Jumperfree settings both can't be changed. You can only change one or the other. This really sucks, as I'm running 2.75ghz right now stable, but it's with a CPU/15 divider, which I don't want. Is there a way around this, other than degrading BIOS?
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    An older BIOS is not necessarily "degraded". It's not always good to upgrade the BIOS. It is risky to do and should only be done to cure a problem you are having. If you're having no problems then don't upgrade the BIOS.

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    Do you store your important data on the RAID 0 array of the two 250GB hard disks? That's not a very good idea! I expect you're trying to gain the performance of RAID 0 to benefit games which are installed to that drive or something. No benefit to data storage whatsoever though, if I were you I would invest in an external hard disk for backing up to or something, especially on a system you're overclocking.

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