THG are killing NF4 (intel boards) right now becuase they cannot cope with what is being asked of them , in a stress test.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050603/index.html
4 intel NF4 boards (killed) now (gigabyte and epox) , they are testing dual core chips...
the Intel machine is running at 91 degrees on average ; when it works - whilst the AMD hasn`t stopped once , and is chugging away at 55 degrees under full load
Interestingly, I provided some coverage on this in HEXUS.tech-news shortly after it started. At that point the AMD system said 1 reboot had occurred on it, but that value was then altered to 0. Don't suppose they've said why?
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Yes , they said they reset BOTH systems to 0 reboots , after they restarted the tests , the first time , when the first gigabyte board blew up.
and yes blew up - both the gigabyte and epox boards have burnt up
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What is interesting is the sequence of events in the case of the AMD system: There was not a single crash in the same period. There has been a correction to the restart counter: many readers interpreted this as a system restart. In practice, the entry "1" stood for the start of the stress test. In order to eliminate misinterpretation, we reduced both counters by this value. Something peculiar happened with the 3D game Farcry though: after running the demo 1000 times, the system abandoned the benchmark on its own, as an analysis of the log file clearly showed.
Well that's a shocker. I would have thought that two Prescots side-by-side would have been nice and cool, just like...erm...never mind.
Hehe.....its a great picture, man intel is getting pwned, it has had nothing but problems, and the amd just sits and does its job, so good that they had to downgrade its graphics to be fair.
i cant believe they went though so many motherboards, i would love to get a custom bios everytime i had probs...but not one that would kill the motherboard
Are they using review sample boards?
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IIRC they mentioned the asus board is a beta board , but the intel boards are review level.
It wasn't a reboot:Originally Posted by Kez
" There has been a correction to the restart counter: many readers interpreted this as a system restart. In practice, the entry "1" stood for the start of the stress test. In order to eliminate misinterpretation, we reduced both counters by this value."
The NF4 chipset can get hot without the proper cooling. Xbit labs killed a Winfast MB based on the NF4 chipset due to improper chipset cooling.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050603/index.html
CPU was getting too hot and killing the boards. It seems to be down to the stock cooler, which it varying in design at the moment.Here is another view of the two CPU coolers: on the left the model responsible for the high temperatures and on the right the cooler now in use to provide better cooling. It appears as if Intel itself is still conditioning it, as both versions are included in the motherboard kits.
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OMG THG showing Intel up for once.....never! Surprised at that
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The boards could probably use some beefed up mosfets and capacitors too.
Also, seems that everyone goes out of their way to make stock heatsink suck. There are heatsinks out there that cannot cost that much more than intel's stock cooler, but perform better. Same with chipset coolers. Crappy bases, thermal compound and mounting jobs are also a problem.
every motherboard maker (most likely except Intel) cut cost in cooling. If a crappy heatsink cost 2 quids, good enough for "normal" users, and a good one cost 5 quids, only needed for 7x24 operation, obviously they're going for the 2 quids one. Using a crappy heatsink means:
1. They can cut cost
2. They can sell cheaper and in turn more people will be buying it
3. Modders will lose their motherboard warranty (by replacing the heatsink) and therefore saving their support cost.
At the end if a Northbridge cooler cost more than the northbridge itself, and probably fixing a bad motherboard will cost LESS than fitting a better heatsink on every board..
If a NB chip cost 20 quids, labour cost 20 quids, a good heatsink cost 5 quids more. And the failure rate is 1 in 20. For every 20 motherboards with good heatsinks, it cost 100 quids more for the company. While it only cost 40 quids to fix the motherboard.
Anyone see my point? (The numbers are all made up though.)
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