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    Question venice or san diego

    does anyone know the difference in these 2 performance wise on these. Ive got a 900 quid budget and wanna get the best cpu for my money. I dont wanna waste the cash though, so if its not worth getting a 3800 venice then i wont. if its better to get a slower sd then i will. You get the gist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin4458
    does anyone know the difference in these 2 performance wise on these. Ive got a 900 quid budget and wanna get the best cpu for my money. I dont wanna waste the cash though, so if its not worth getting a 3800 venice then i wont. if its better to get a slower sd then i will. You get the gist.

    cheers lads. Some benhcmarking tables would be awsome

    Cheers Hexi pr0s
    The 3700+ is cheaper and when overclocked it will smash the 3800+ pretty good in most things. Stock the 3800+ is faster in most things, but not all. To me the 3700+ is by far the better value.

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    3700 san diego? how easy is it too overclock it passed a 3800 venice? or are u talking about the 3700 venice overclocking past the 3800 venice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin4458
    3700 san diego? how easy is it too overclock it passed a 3800 venice? or are u talking about the 3700 venice overclocking past the 3800 venice?
    Check out the benchmarks. I run my 3700+ crunching SETI at 2830MHz 24/7 on air. With 1MB cache that's screaming!

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    ur 3700 san diego? cool. What is SETI?, and would i need some kinda mobo and some kinda ram? to get those speeds. and is it simple ovrclocking? not that risky?

    This is what im looking at

    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ san d 90nm

    MOBO: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-046-MS)

    GFX CARD: Asus EAX800XL/2DTV ATI Radeon X800 XL 256MB DDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-077-AS)

    CASE: Coolermaster Cavalier 1 - Silver (No PSU) (CA-063-CM)

    PSU: Enermax Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE SFMA ATX2.0 SLI Compliant PSU (CA-021-EN)

    HD: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 120GB 6Y120LO ATA-133 2MB Cache - OEM (HD-028-MD)
    RAM: G.Skill 1GB DDR ZX PC3200 (2x512MB) CAS2 Dual Channel Kit (F1-3200PHU2-1GBZX) (MY-002-GS)
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    That's practically the same rig I'm running on those benches. And it's very easy and safe if you know how to do it. You need pretty good cooling but nothing spectacular. I'm running a TT Venus 12. I'm not overvolting much and I'm not pushing my RAM because SETI benefits more from the higher clocks than it does from extreme RAM settings.

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    wot cooling, what that rig do it, or will i need some more cooling? what is SETI?

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    StormPCs and I always agree on the San Diego is the better CPU of the two and has got the better performance due to its 1mb cache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    Check out the benchmarks. I run my 3700+ crunching SETI at 2830MHz 24/7 on air. With 1MB cache that's screaming!

    just out of interest, what do you think the 4000+ SD would clock to on the same setup your have? (air)

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    SETI is a distributed computing project "Search for Extra Terestrial Inteligence" where you download blocks of radio telescope data and do some computational work on it and any unusual patterns that could be ET get reported to the SETI team for further analysis. I don't think they've found any aliens yet.

    It's one of those tasks that uses alot of CPU power to crunch the data so it's used as a benchmark how quickly you can complete the work units.

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    If your gonna leave them stock, get the venice, if your gonna overclock, get the SD.

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    Question

    If the overclocking requires a "touch of a button:" then it would silly not to buy san diego. But if u gotta be quite experienced and clued up on clockking then il prob get the venice. If the san diego performs better than surley i would want to go for the san diego whether i clock or not.?

    EDIT: Just looking on dealtime and found:
    AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2.4 GHz (ADA3800BPBOX) (venice for 260)
    AMD Athlon 64 3700+, 2.4 GHz (ADA3700BNBOX (SD for 230)

    From what i can see the only diff is that the sd has 1024 of L2 cache.

    so why is it cheaper?
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    It should read, 2.2ghz for the SD.

    I have a Venice 3800+, Derthballs has a SD on the for sale forum.

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    At stock the venice is a fair bit faster as it's 200mhz quicker. At the end of the day, with A64's it's still mainly mhz that cuts the mustard.

    The 1Mb is nice to have, but not the be all and end all, and certanly doesn't make up for 200mhz on the same type chips.

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    oh my bad then. I always thought san diago was the STRONGER chip, like the winchester over the newcastle, got that one wrong. Venice it is then 3800venice i will go for. These can overclock if i wanted to later on?
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    Well it the stronger chip clock for clock, but one is 2.2ghz and one is 2.4ghz.

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