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    How many....X2 with 1gb RAM

    How many of you X2 guys are running only 1gb of RAM?

    I have 2 x 512mb G.Skill LAs in my Lanparty and I'm afraid not only would 1gb not be enough, but thats the G.Skill will be totally wasted due to the fact I wouldn't be overclocking much.


    So any thoughs/feedback?

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    You don't need to overclock to make use of good memory, but it helps. I would never consider using good RAM in an X2 a waste. If you are keeping the Lanparty though and you are overclocking the memory a lot you may want to get something new for the X2.

    Afraid it is not enough for what? Go to the store and check the requirements for software. Do you think you will see any program that requires more than a gigabyte? I think those programs are few.

    There are no mainstream programs that require more than 1GB of RAM. There are a few applications that could use more RAM. They mostly are applications having to do with hires scanning and image manipulation.

    It will be quite some time before 1GB will be inadequate in any sense of the word.

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    That assumes running only one application at a time, shutting it down before you use the next. Seeing memory pressure on a 1GiB system is quite easy with a few common applications open at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rys
    That assumes running only one application at a time, shutting it down before you use the next. Seeing memory pressure on a 1GiB system is quite easy with a few common applications open at the same time.
    No it doesn't. 1GB is a lot of RAM. Most applications simply do not load very much of themselves into memory. That's why on a fast system applications pretty much load instantly.

    What you're probably talking about is workstation/power-user situations where a multi-CPU Opteron workstation with 4GB of RAM and large storage arrays may be required. That's apparently not Randell's situation. From his previous posts I'd say he's more of a mainstream user.

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    But the fact is, 2Gb is obviously better and if your not overclocking much, it's perfect, as 2Gb is no more expensive than a goo 1Gb stick.

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    Photoshop, Firefox, IE, Editplus, Winamp, MSN, Outlook not to mention any background programs such as AV software and you'll start to feel 1GB RAM being use soon enough I can assure you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey21
    But the fact is, 2Gb is obviously better and if your not overclocking much, it's perfect, as 2Gb is no more expensive than a goo 1Gb stick.
    Why is it obviously better? Because it's more?

    Knock yourself out but 2GB is a waste unless you're scanning and manipulating very large images. I guess it could also be useful for people who do not have the brains to close an application when they are finished with it. If a person is that stupid then they are probably too stupid to be able to switch between 17 open applications.

    BTW, if you have 17 open applications I have two things to say to you.

    1) You really need to update your anti-virus/anti-spyware...and
    2) Stay away from the porno sites!


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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    I guess it could also be useful for people who do not have the brains to close an application when they are finished with it. If a person is that stupid then they are probably too stupid to be able to switch between 17 open applications.
    Did you really mean to say that, and call people that use their PC in such a fashion 'stupid' ?

    Your argument in this thread is baseless, since you cannot possibly understand of know how everyone uses their PC, yet you presume to do so by calling people with lots of running applications 'stupid'.

    I currently have the following up and running on my PC, as I type this:

    Photoshop CS
    Homesite 4.5
    Firefox
    Outlook XP
    Steam
    MSN Messenger
    Rivatuner
    RMClock
    WiFi Card Manager
    System Studio 2
    Winamp
    NOD3D Anti Virus
    Microsoft Word
    PuTTY
    UltraMon
    DynDNS Updater
    Gadwin Printscreen
    EPSON Printer Monitor

    Combined, they're using nearly 800MB of physical memory, with a further 300MB or so paged out to disk but mapped and in use. All of those applications are either required for me to do my job, or are small utilities that help me use my computer quickly and easily. That's over 1GB of mapped memory, the OS pushing some out to disk.

    The minute I start the process of editing images in Photoshop for use in HomeSite, while I use Word for copy checking, I'll run into memory pressure with the OS having to go out to disk more often. 2GB would be a help for me.

    I don't consider my use of a PC, or the apps and utils I run, to be out of the ordinary. Do you? Infact, I consider it entirely normal.

    I shut down the bigger apps when I want to game, but I certainly don't close down all the smaller utilities I frequently use. Am I stupid, in your eyes, for not doing so? If I am, and I'm far from alone in how I use a computer, then I suggest you start to rethink your notions of computer use before any more threads you participate in are sidetracked by your incorrect assumptions about how folks use a PC.

    I know it's common for the overclocker to shut as much down as possible, in the pursuit of a higher benchmark result, and I know that's where you're coming from, but that's really not how most us a PC system. Please try and understand that.

    Calling RoGuE|SaBeR stupid for his tiny list of useful apps he uses is uncalled for. Please exercise restraint before you insult anyone else, thanks!
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    If people use Azureus for bittorrent legal downloading (obv) then they will understand the importance of RAM.

    Alone it takes up around 300MB
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    I have ran 1 Gb of ram and also 2 Gb of ram on my A8N based system.

    When it had 2 Gb of in the memory would only run @ 400 MHz with timings of 2.5-2-2-2-5 and it worked absolutely fine. With 1 Gb I was running @ 2-2-2-5 at stock speeds and various applications such as Adobe photoshop, Office, and the tenomichi 3d edit gold all ran smoother. Gaming wise, HL2 ran a bit smoother as did BF2 and even doom 3 ( eek - I reinstalled it for a bit of mindless plug and frag fun )

    Who recalls when Mr G said that the home user would not need more than 640k ?

    benchy wise, obviously the 2Gb was slightly slower due to the timings, but it felt smoother with more intensive applications and even Steam ran better if that can even be said

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    Personally I'd be happy to run an X2 with 1GB of RAM (and will do at some point if prices come down). I never run enough apps concurrently to need more than that, and the applications that I use that would benefit most from a second core (DVD Shrink and Find-A-Drug) are not particularly heavy users of memory.

    Here's an interesting article about how you may be able to use the GSkill memory at more than 200MHz without overclocking the processor.

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    Well the new X2 4400 should arrive in a few days time

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    Plenty of games do/will be needing 2gb in the future.

    Everquest2, BF2 are just two I can think of right now.

    I dont see anything wrong with having 2gb, as it will futureproof your pc for quite a while.

    Ram is also quite cheap atm, which makes it more of a good idea.

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    Personally if I was building a new PC base unit from scratch for myself I wouldn't even hesitate to put 2GB in there.

    I've had 1.5GB in this machine and the difference was noticable from 1Gb, expecially in games such as Far Cry, 2GB would definitely smooth things out noticably using Windows w/lots of apps even on my machine letalone on an X2.

    StormPC - You need to understand PC's can be, and are in the majority of cases, used for multiple purposes at once. That is THE reason why they are so popular. Otherwise we would all have seperate devices for certain tasks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    If people use Azureus for bittorrent legal downloading (obv) then they will understand the importance of RAM.

    Alone it takes up around 300MB
    I don't think it does iirc. Usually it's the JVM that takes up the memory, but it is (almost) platform independant henceforth a good app

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    I have 2 x 512MB of Corsair XL Pro PC3200. It's happy in my current system but there again, i have no knowledge on the latest tech so i'm unsure of what bus speeds (HTT) the latest CPU's support but obviously that's also dependant on the chipset. Personally i'm not into overclocking anymore as on the latest tech i really don't see the necessity to overclock as using default clock speeds would allow you to adhere to perfectly acceptable gameplay

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