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    Exclamation ram ram oy ram


    im poor

    but building an amd64

    ive rechecked all the pc3200

    prices are a bottleneck

    current favorite is gskill extreme

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231012

    does anyone know if this is compatible with my mobo choice :band:

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    well whats your mobo choice then? yes it would be compatiable as at the end of the day its just PC3200 memory so it will work on any DDR based system. Its not gonna have an allergic reaction and blow up is it?
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    what it could do?????????????

    hi
    if you read the dfi street and msi forums

    theres a zillion ram problem posts

    it could not boot

    not run dual channel
    not be stable
    etc....

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    That could happen with any RAM sticks. Yes I do read the DFI Street forums and do know the problems as I had them.

    The only way to make sure they work together is too get them and try them.

    You still haven't said what mobo your after....
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    I would usually try to get ram that has chips on it known for their overclock, for example:
    BH5/6, CH5/6, TCCD, and the newer BH-5 stuff.

    Theres an issue with the AMD64 mem controlers, which prevent using 4 sticks if comand rate is not set at 2T - so it is worth considering getting 1gb sticks if you ever want to have more than 1gb.

    Unfortunatly I dont think any of the decent chips are used in 1gb sticks, but I know crucial sell some resonably good 1gb sticks.

    Other than that, usually its just a case of setting the right voltage, timings and clockspeed - but there are some sticks that will have isues with certian motherboards for no obvious reson.

    On my dfi nf4 Im currently using 2x 512mb BH-5, and 2x 512mb TCCD, which run fine at 2-3-3-7 upto 229mhz at stock voltage. More voltage doesnt help so I assume the problem is either themem controler or imcompatability between the two different types of ram chips when used together.
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    sorry forgot to tell mobo

    msi k8n neo4 platinum

    posted in gskill and msi forum

    if interested will post link to replies

    thanx for replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by automaton
    hi
    if you read the dfi street and msi forums

    theres a zillion ram problem posts

    it could not boot

    not run dual channel
    not be stable
    etc....
    The MSI Neo4 Plat sucks. The only thing worse is MSI's RMA dept.

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    Exclamation what mobo you reccomend[not big o/cer

    read all the reviews
    what board do you suggest

    dfi looks problematic from their forum

    gigabyte maybe

    asus benches pu

    have epox4pca3+
    epox?

    fast stable
    will be running nv raid0 2xhitachi sata2

    lemme know

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    The Asus A8N-E is the only non-SLI S939 board I will put in my systems. It is by far the best. Also, boards don't overclock, overclockers do. An overclocker can make any board perform well if he's ever seen a soldering iron.

    The Asus A8N-E is faster than my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and it actually works. Solid as a rock, better BIOS options and overclocks much better right out of the box with none of the quirks that MSI has become famous for. Also, I don't know if you've had any experience with MSI's RMA department, but they truly suck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    The Asus A8N-E is the only non-SLI S939 board I will put in my systems. It is by far the best. Also, boards don't overclock, overclockers do. An overclocker can make any board perform well if he's ever seen a soldering iron.

    The Asus A8N-E is faster than my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and it actually works. Solid as a rock, better BIOS options and overclocks much better right out of the box with none of the quirks that MSI has become famous for. Also, I don't know if you've had any experience with MSI's RMA department, but they truly suck!

    Id much rather have my dfi nf4 than have to bother with vmods. Not that I cant do it, Im quite good at SMD soldering.. but its soo much nicer to have it avilable in the bios and keep the warrenty (for when it dies a year later from something compleatly unreated.. as they often do)

    The DFI has problems, but I would consider them all minior.. Ive set up 2 pcs with the dfi and I dont think it could really be improved apon on at the hardware level. The bios could do with some work but then Im using the original bios and theres been plenty of others since then - including ones with memtest86 built in

    Im not saying its the best though, as I havent used any other S939 boards...
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    A motherboard without a BIOS is pretty useless isn't it?

    They all use pretty much the same hardware.

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    Have to say that the DFI is a joy once it is set up correctly and you follow the setup guides that AG and RG have done at DFI-Street.

    People with problems are generally down to bad setups (i.e. under powered PSUs, shorting out etc) and very rarely down to faulty hardware.

    Mine was a pig to setup but once I found that perfect setup as suggested by AG it ran real smooth and was dead easy to OC.

    I prefer AWARD bios's to Pheonix ones as well (assuming the asus uses them still)
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    A motherboard without a BIOS is pretty useless isn't it?

    They all use pretty much the same hardware.

    But its not without, is it.

    They all have pretty much the same bios too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |SilentDeath|
    But its not without, is it.

    They all have pretty much the same bios too.
    If the BIOS is not good then the motherboard is not good. Geeeezzz...do i really have to connect the dots?

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    I like Gigabyte. I've had very good luck with them. They are my second favorite next to Asus for reliability and features. They've made a couple of clunkers, but most of their A64 boards have been pretty solid.

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