if i was to get a shuttle.....

[Apex]

which model should i go for ?

can be either amd or intel has i have both setups in a towers at the mo......

[rough_neck]

What do you want to use it for? Games? . .

[Apex]

desktop replacement/games and all that

like i said either intel or amd it don't matter has have both allready just looking to move things over from one rig and then sell other off.

[rough_neck]

Well ive had a SN41G2 for about 7 months coupled with a 9700 pro and have had no problems what so ever. So I would say the SN41G2 however I think there are some new shuttles around the corner .. . .

rough_neck

[Apex]

cheap enough

[Bunjiweb]

Apex - i'd suggest looking into the SN41G2B - it's the same as the SN41G2, but slightly revised and all in black - very sexy.

If you can wait there are a number of new shuttles being released towards the end of this year and early next year... new Intel chipset based ones, Athlon64, etc etc.

If you're into overclocking AMDs the SN45G, which is based on an Nforce400 would be a very fast solution coupled with a nice Radeon 9700Pro or Radeon 9800...

Ben

[Apex]

ocing is not my game so i'll give the sn45g a look over and has for the sn41g2b looks good and it's the right colour

[d_fresh1]

sn45gs do rock...

[Bruno]

Is there ever any problems with the g.card not getting enough cool air to cool it? (not trying to hijack thread, just always noticed it looks quite cramped!).

[Ultim8pc]

Sorry - Intel P4 based are best - definately the easiest to get going AND the most stable & reliable!!
SB75 I reckon....

[Apex]

thats a spanner in the works so to speak............

[Bindibadgi]

Originally posted by Ultim8pc
Sorry - Intel P4 based are best - definately the easiest to get going AND the most stable & reliable!!
SB75 I reckon....

That's true. Intel chipsets and intel mobos are the most stable things ive ever used. However its uber expensive as are the CPUS. You can pop in an XP2500/2400 for what.. £65?ish and an SN45G is only 170odd.

[Ultim8pc]

Bindi:
True, but depends what you are looking for:
Intel:Cooler running and stability - more expensive.
Or
AMD:Hotter running and less stability - cheaper.

A few years back I had several AMD systems - they outperformed equivalent Intel systems, but they were just never stable. That situation has not changed (IMHO) even thought the chipsets for AMD chipsets have improved...

You pays yer money, you takes yer choice!

[Bindibadgi]

Intel arent that much cooler than AMD m8.

I agree, in general perhaps AMD have less stability but you couple an intel chip with anything other than an intel chipset and you wont get SFA ocing or stability. I own an intel/intel system and ill only go back to AMD thru cost cause i can throw stones at it and it wont crash. Now an SN85G4 would be nice, and faster, but will also cost ur arm, leg, a lung and a kidney.. and probably ur mother before you can afford one.

Ive no experience with AMD chips for a while, but chip:chip id hazard a guess there isnt much diff in the temperature dept.

Also the nforce chipsets offer dolby encoding (iirc?), better 2D (onboard) and better TV out than intel offerings (do intel DO tv out??).

Its the oppotunity cost between uber expensive CPU + SB75 (which cost more than the SN45s) but "arguably" more stable and a significantly cheaper AMD XP and SN45 and "arguably" less stable.

[unrealrocks]

I personally would choose the AMD route ... cheaper and with the NForce2 chipset on its got all the features of a board crammed with PCI cards, lol!

In answer to Bruno - Yes, some cards (like early FXs) will not fit and there has been heat problems although Ive never seen a stock card have problems although if you are not sure ... you could add a blow hole very easily (either put the fan on the outside or no fan at all)!

[rob3]

I would go intel, thats what i have in my system( its a tower), there more stable that AMD's imo, and they do run cooler! They are more robust, harder to break. Also if temperatures did get to high within that shuttle box, the thermal throttling would slow the CPU down to prevent damage! hope this is of help!