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    Question Most Powerfull CPU ?

    Hey all,

    If you wanted to buy the most powerfull cpu for a home gaming rig today, and money wasn't all that much of a problem (nothing over a £1000) what cpu would you get ? Maybe the Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 840 Dual Core or the AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ or the AMD Athlon FX57 San Diego ?

    So what would it be ?

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    If it was truely just for gaming, then an FX-57, if it was for everything, as it more than likely is, then an x2 4800 (both oced of course) simply because it isnt that much slower, and will be oh so much better at general use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herulach
    If it was truely just for gaming, then an FX-57, if it was for everything, as it more than likely is, then an x2 4800 (both oced of course) simply because it isnt that much slower, and will be oh so much better at general use.

    same applies for me but i wouldnt O'C

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    I'll 3rd that, though if you wanted to, say, burn CD's whilst you frag then go X2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herulach
    If it was truely just for gaming, then an FX-57, if it was for everything, as it more than likely is, then an x2 4800 (both oced of course) simply because it isnt that much slower, and will be oh so much better at general use.
    Yeah alot of people seem to be saying that. Why is the FX-57 considered better for gaming and the x2 4800 better for general use ? When i first saw the x2, i was wowed by the dual core, and thought that surely that is gonna be better for gaming ? just like sli or the upcoming crossfire will be for graphics processing.

    Also what about the Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 840 Dual Core ?
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    I'm very happy with my X2 4800+

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    P4's are awesome for general and media use, but AMD is better in the gaming arena since game engines mostly only use the FPU to perform the 3d math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_07
    Yeah alot of people seem to be saying that. Why is the FX-57 considered better for gaming and the x2 4800 better for general use ? When i first saw the x2, i was wowed by the dual core, and thought that surely that is gonna be better for gaming ? just like sli or the upcoming crossfire will be for graphics processing.

    Also what about the Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 840 Dual Core ?
    Games (and most prorgrams) arent written to run on 2 processors yet, until they are you get no advantage unless youre running something else in the background. Apparently Unreal 3 will be written with multi processor support, so basically from a gaming perspective a 4800 is 1 CPU, but with a little less bottleneck, cos teh ~3% windows uses isnt taking up processor time. For that reason an FX 57 will be faster in all single threaded applications, just because it has the raw clock speed. As soon as you start doing two relatively intensive things at once, or using something multithreaded (designed for multiple cpus, photoshop, mp3 encoding, video encoding) then the X2 will hand it its ass.

    No one bothers with P4s, cos as far as gaming goes they are pants, well, not pants, but AMD are much better. However for some stuff (mainly encoding/rendering etc) intel rocks.

    Hope that helps some.

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    If you really want to know the nitty gritty comparisons, you could always read Xbit's article on Intel's Netburst architecture.

    AMD have always been better at FPU compared to their longer piped high clocking Intel rivals. Games and most stochastic-based simulations normally utilise more of the raw FLOPS than the longer instruction strings provided by Intel.

    If you fancy Intel so much, go get the XE 840.. but since you've asked us which one is the better gaming chip, AMD is better in it by a mile. (Don't even get me started on the XE 3.7Ghz, FX-57 can almost eclipse that chip).
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    I would without doubt go for the X2 4800+ - even if you're using the system mostly for gaming, the X2 is very nearly as good as the FX55 or FX57, and the improvement in "general use" is very significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt
    P4's are awesome for general and media use, but AMD is better in the gaming arena since game engines mostly only use the FPU to perform the 3d math.
    That used to be the case, but, to be honest, AMD beat intel in almost all arenas now, not just gaming. The P4 just doesn't cut it against AMD's various chips.

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    So as a general rule for thumb, if your going for a gaming rig, amd is the way to go ?
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    So as a general rule for thumb, if your going for a gaming rig, amd is the way to go ?
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    ^^^ for anything except a dedicated video encoding machine (where Intel's longer instruction pipeline excels) an AMD64 of some description will comprehensively outpace a similarly priced Intel at all levels.

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