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    New SATA II Samsung Drive In Remove Hardware Window, Weird!!!

    Hi people,

    Thank you for your help so far on this forum, the support has been great but unfortunately I have yet another question

    Today I have managed to get my new custom build PC working fully and have windows etc installed (good news).

    Something strange has happened though (see attached pic) which is that as you can see the Samsung Spinpoint Hard Drive that I have shows up everytime when I boot windows in the Start Up Box under the safely remove hardware tab. Almost like the PC thinks its an external drive which it isn't BTW.

    Anyone else experienced this sort of thing??? Any advice would be great.

    P.S The Samsung drive from what I can see was an OEM drive so no drivers came with it, just the sata floppy that came with the motherboard + I have installed the latest nforce 4 motherboard drivers but to no avail.

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    Again any help would be great.

    Cheers, Nathan

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    I've never used SATA drives in my machine before, but at a guess, I would say it is because SATA drives are hotpluggable... aren't they?
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    I have 3 SATA 1 drives (which are not sposed to be hotpluggable) and they dont come up like that, maybe its a new feature of SATA 2, does it work ok otherwise?

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    A friend of mine said the same earlier today but wasn't 100% sure.

    Hmmm perhaps your right then.

    I was just worried that I maybe had the wrong drivers installed or something???

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    I have the same thing. I built my system on a PATA drive, then Ghosted it on to a SATA drive then I saw what you see. I just assumed it was normal, SATA is hot plugable.
    I haven't tried telling the system to remove the drive, as I assume that would kill the system (at least until the next reboot.) Hopefully Windows would refuse to remove it as it is in use (wouldn't it be a first for that message to be useful! )
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    All my 4 SATA drives show up in there, nothing to worry about.
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    Ok great, false alarm then. Sorry guys

    Is there actually any way of hiding this icon in the start up or is it there to stay???

    Also as I haven't installed drivers for the HD per say, shall I try to track some down or will the Nvidia nforce 4 mobo drivers take care of everything???

    Thanks again for the help so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate247
    Ok great, false alarm then. Sorry guys

    Is there actually any way of hiding this icon in the start up or is it there to stay???

    Also as I haven't installed drivers for the HD per say, shall I try to track some down or will the Nvidia nforce 4 mobo drivers take care of everything???

    Thanks again for the help so far
    The nf4 driver will take care of it. I even stress-tested the SATA controller with 4x4 loop of SATA transfer (50mb/s*4 @ 920GB/loop)
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    Mike_W is right - it's coz they are hot swappable

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuzgib
    Mike_W is right - it's coz they are hot swappable
    They show there but they are NOT without a hotswap enclosure. I tried to plug in an extra 300G hdd (when I bought it). After I plug it in, 5 second later, the system hang, and of course ruining my 12 hours encoding
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    What do you know, it works properly!
    Told it to safely remove my 2nd SATA drive, & it did it.
    Told it to remove my 1st SATA drive (C:,OS), it says cannot be stopped right now...try later.
    I don't have any problem with that.
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    If you load the NForce SW IDE drivers you get the "safely remove" icon in systray for SATA devices but if you stick with the MS drivers you don't.

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    It is cause its hot swappable, nice feature, and you can add new HDDs without an enclosure, the new ASUS boards come with adaptors to convert 2 ports to external SATA and I hot swap mine continously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthurleung
    They show there but they are NOT without a hotswap enclosure. I tried to plug in an extra 300G hdd (when I bought it). After I plug it in, 5 second later, the system hang, and of course ruining my 12 hours encoding
    They are - my Mobo even came with a blanking-plate-with-sata-ports-extension thing, and you get external sata ports on some fan controllers.

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    I got this when I set up my SN95 (Shuttle) but not when I had my SN85 previously.....both were the same system setups (apart from the CPU's and Barebone's themselves) and both had identical sets of drivers installed on them.

    The only difference that I could find was that the SN85 uses a 3rd party controller on the motherboard (one of the SIL ones if I recall correctly) while the SN95 (with nForce3Ultra) has SATA support built into the Northbridge, and as such is behaving like an unpluggable system device, like a USB device.

    This was the main reason that I could come up with for why the 'Remove Hardware' icon was showing itself........


    .........but if I'm talking nonsense, please feel free to ignore all of the above.

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    Whilst not massively PC savy I would say that what you have said makes perfect sense.

    My friend is building a near identical PC to mine in the next few days, the only difference is his HD and Mobo.

    I will see what his does with regard to the removable drive showing up. To be honest I have now just excepted the fact that its there and just kind of got on with things.

    Just curious as to why its happening I guess and the explanation you have given seems reasonable!!!

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