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    Average Lifespans of components?

    Well, this is my first real upgrade since ive had my own PC. The pc in the "my computer" to the left <<, is 4 years old, except the GFX card was replaced around 1 1/2 - 2 years ago, and another stick of 256mb RAM was stuck in at the same time. Ive had no major problems, but around a year ago, the PSU would make a horrid very loud whirring noise at every startup, and last around 2-4minutes. it went away for months but is back now, lasting even longer and happening at random times for any length of time. Its also quite obvious the CPU isnt performing as well as it used to, longer loading times on software, games slower and all the rest.

    But no matter, im upgrading this christmas to a system that looks like this:

    PSU HIPER Type-R Black 580W
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    CPU AMD 64 3200+ Retail HSF Venice 2.0GHz
    GPU Connect3d X800GTO
    RAM, PC3200 2gb (2x1gb)
    Sound Card, Audigy SE
    HD 120GB WD Caviar SE SATA2
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    Only things im putting in new PC from old are, CDRW, DVD, HD.


    If i was to run everything at stock, how long would everything be expected to last for?
    What if i was to overclock to CPU to 2.2GHz, how long would the CPU be expected to last then?
    Also what about overclocking the RAM (a bit) and a GPU?
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    Needs new monitor / speakers / headphones / keyboard.
    Before that i need money :s

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    retail cpu's are warrentied for 3 years so should last longer than that on stock as for hard disks look for a 5 year warrenty

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    Things without moving parts such as CPU's and graphics cards should easily last beyond their useful lifespan, unless they are being allowed to cool down and heat up all the time as this gradually kills the chip through metal expansion. This is one of the reasons why people advise to keep your PC on 24/7.

    Hard drives and optical drives id say after about 5 years they are knackered, as these do contain moving parts. And fans dont last forever either.

    I wouldnt worry about overclocking shortening a CPU's lifespan, it may shorten it from 20 years to 19 or something ridiculous, remember a CPU has been designed to run at its stock speed in any condition, so a well ventilated CPU which is slightly overclocked is no problem.

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    If i was to run everything at stock, how long would everything be expected to last for?
    What if i was to overclock to CPU to 2.2GHz, how long would the CPU be expected to last then?
    Also what about overclocking the RAM (a bit) and a GPU?
    A few years no problem, my 3000+ runs 2.7Ghz constantly and there is no problem at all. If there will be problem there wouldn't be a FX-57 out there.

    Depends on what kind of ram you get, crap ram does hinder overclock quite a lot.

    Regarding to GPU, what LCD monitor are you using? a 15"? a 17~19" or bigger? Since you're not going to use a fast CPU, and a "basic LCD" probably mean 15", you really don't need anything more than a 6600LE/GT. Anything more will be just a waste. 40FPS and 400FPS will look the same on a basic LCD.

    And also, if your 60GB IDE served you well, you can continue to use it. If you don't even need 60GB, an extra 120GB will be just a waste, and 80/120GB drives aren't much faster than your 60GB. 120GB does not have good capacity/size. A more sensible choice would be something like a 200,250 or 300GB drive for max GB and performance per quid.

    You can also scrap your CDRW and DVDROM and get a new DVDRW since they're so cheap now.

    The last thing is make sure you get a new good quality power supply. If you do decide to get a X800GTO, your new system will use substantially more power, especially new A64 motherboards draw large fraction of power from the 12V rail. The actually power usage will be just a bit higher but the strain on the 12V rail will probably kill your power supply in a short time, or cause system instability.
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    normally its fans that die first.

    HDDs are now designed to last an awful long time, seagate brag about 5 year warenty on all their drives.

    Yet cooling fans never seam to last that long, they seam to get loader and loader. Something will happen, some dust, a leaf, a finger or a cable. and blam, new fan. I do have some 5 year old systems that work just great i'd like to mention at this point! Only RAM has been added.
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    Dont get that PSU, mget a Tagan or Seasonic, and i would go with a modular PSU (you can remove the wires you dont need) I would go with this:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=243645

    But you dont need that wattage (what you have quoted in your post), so go with this:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...ductID=241236#

    Also, get at least 200GB of HDD space - But you say that you already have your 120 from your old PC? Did you upgrade cause thats only a few months old?

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=236952

    As far as i know the WD SATA2 drives are best.

    Also, what about a case?

    And you probably dont need a soundcard as onboard is very good now and basically Creative XFi s have n compertition now.
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    Just my 2p.

    The Tagan is 50% more &#163;&#163;&#163; than the Hiper, and the Hiper is modular.

    Drives are still limited by the transfer rate from the disk platter to the controller onboard the drive (multiply bit density by rotation speed) not by the drive-to-motherboard cable.

    Onboard audio is usually ok nowadays on the higher end mobos.

    Go for 250-300GB with 16MB cache if you ca, it won't cost more if you get a Scan deal etc.

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    Tagan is Modular lol.

    Get the Tagan 530W, and you can use it in your next system .

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    yer i got a tagan 580 type r and its modualar, also with the soundcard thing u really shouldnt get the audigy when the xi fi is only a little but more and is the world off difference tbh,who keeps the same pc for more than five years anyway?
    some people do but if you want a system that lasts longer just by the upgrade chip instead of getting a 2.0 gig and ocing it.simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by project187
    yer i got a tagan 580 type r and its modualar, also with the soundcard thing u really shouldnt get the audigy when the xi fi is only a little but more and is the world off difference tbh,who keeps the same pc for more than five years anyway?
    some people do but if you want a system that lasts longer just by the upgrade chip instead of getting a 2.0 gig and ocing it.simple
    Actually, if you don't have a good pair of speaker to match, an X-fi wouldn't sound any better than the Audigy.
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    o rite i wouldnt know as i do have good speakers but you may as well spend the little exta so when you do upgrade they sound better plus it has a better crystalizer so you must notice a differnce
    only coz u have one lol biased

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zad
    The Tagan is 50% more £££ than the Hiper, and the Hiper is modular.
    Ever asked yourself why? A cheap PSU is money WASTED, sure, its not a Qtec (lol) but i would still pay for the quality, reasurance, and stability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvening
    Ever asked yourself why? A cheap PSU is money WASTED, sure, its not a Qtec (lol) but i would still pay for the quality, reasurance, and stability.
    QFT++
    I used to have an athlon XP rig, it was unstable as f**k until I swapped out the crappy generic PSU for an enermax... In my expereience, cheap PSU's almost never deliver their rated wattage, and I have had hardware die from using them... as for overclocking, as long as you don't play with voltages the difference in lifespan will be at worst neglegible, and in most cases non existent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvening
    Ever asked yourself why? A cheap PSU is money WASTED, sure, its not a Qtec (lol) but i would still pay for the quality, reasurance, and stability.
    Q-tec are utter rubbish but thats simply not true about Hiper. Hiper psu's are very good supplies. I am more than happy with mine and it happily keeps my whole system stable. If you don't believe me google some reviews or look at the hiper page here:

    http://www.hipergroup.com/English/reviews.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse
    Q-tec are utter rubbish but thats simply not true about Hiper. Hiper psu's are very good supplies. I am more than happy with mine and it happily keeps my whole system stable. If you don't believe me google some reviews or look at the hiper page here:

    http://www.hipergroup.com/English/reviews.html
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