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    Memory for going 64-bit.. and overclocking for now

    Hi,
    Would this be decent memory to buy on my plan to go 64-bit? I will be upgrading over time so yeah.. also, will it be good for overclocking my current processor: AMD Athlon XP 2000+. (How much do you think I could get it to? 2GHz+?)

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=79913

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    nah dude. get ocz , mushkin redlines or crucial ballistix (stay away from 2 gb kits) as for overclocking that processer i cant see you getting much out of it. Especially on aircooling.

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    Seriously paying 90 quids for 1G of ram, on a 2000+ is worthless. Even the cheapo will do you fine. Your 2000+ won't clock over 233Mhz and most cheapo ram can at least do 210Mhz. You would be better off getting a SoA Sempron + 2x512M cheapo for around that sum of money.

    KT400/600 have poor overclocking (but better mem controller), but NF2 have poor mem controller (higher overclock than KT but ram timing had to be very loose, ram rated at CL2 need to run CL2.5 on NF2 boards)

    So you won't enjoy the full benefit of the ram.
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    I plan to go 64-bit when I have the money, but need to buy upgrades over time to do it. So basicly I wanted some decent memory that would replace my crappy PC2100 RAM at the moment, so I can overclock the current processor until I can replace it for something more powerful... so for just now I want RAM, I can't afford buying 2 processors.. just RAM for now.

    The current speed is 133mhz anyhow, so.. yeah.


    I'll have another look around, but I'd like something decent for now AND when I go 64-bit, so I'm not buying RAM over and over.

    Thanks

    Edit: So something like this?;
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...Ballistix.html
    "Crucial Ballistix PC-4000 BL12864Z503 1GB DDR (MY-043-CR)"

    Aparently it's better to get 2 sticks of 512mb though?

    Edit2: Here we go;
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...stix_Kits.html
    "Crucial 1GB (2x512MB) DDR PC4000 Ballistix Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT6464Z503) (MY-041-CR)"

    or

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=291359


    PC4000 too
    Last edited by XA04; 25-12-2005 at 03:22 PM.

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    bump ^^


    I think I know what I'm looking for, but just want other people's opinions before I go spending money..

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    go crucial if u must but u wont see the benifit of this ram.

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    I'm really confused. Why won't I see any benefits?

    I currently have PC2100 RAM, which is crap how it is, and for going 64-bit this RAM would be even worse . What am I supposed to do? Get no RAM at all?

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    You should do what arthurleung says. An athlon XP just wont use the benifits that the ram will give you. It will be a little faster but for the money you could make ur system alot faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XA04
    I'm really confused. Why won't I see any benefits?

    I currently have PC2100 RAM, which is crap how it is, and for going 64-bit this RAM would be even worse . What am I supposed to do? Get no RAM at all?
    The CPU and the OS are the only things to determine whether you can run 64bit or not. You don't need ultra-fast memory to run 64bit. Even if you're upgrading your computer to 64bit soon, You either go Intel DDR2 (which mean you can't use DDR anyway) or AMD64. and AMD64 does NOT need fast memory to run. Memory divider solves everything. Even with the most extreme overclock you don't need anything greater than DDR400 (Well, unless you want the remaining few percents of performance out of your insanely overclocked cpu you'll need something like DDR500~600).

    You're basically paying extra 30 quids just for the LED. For that price you can buy PQI DDR500 already (correct me if I'm wrong)
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    Quote Originally Posted by neonplanet40
    You should do what arthurleung says. An athlon XP just wont use the benifits that the ram will give you. It will be a little faster but for the money you could make ur system alot faster.

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    Yeah... but I have to upgrade over time though, I can't buy RAM for my system now AND for when I go 64-bit, I need RAM for now and then, so even if I benefit a little now at least I'm one step closer to becoming 64-bit..

    Quote Originally Posted by arthurleung
    The CPU and the OS are the only things to determine whether you can run 64bit or not. You don't need ultra-fast memory to run 64bit. Even if you're upgrading your computer to 64bit soon, You either go Intel DDR2 (which mean you can't use DDR anyway) or AMD64. and AMD64 does NOT need fast memory to run. Memory divider solves everything. Even with the most extreme overclock you don't need anything greater than DDR400 (Well, unless you want the remaining few percents of performance out of your insanely overclocked cpu you'll need something like DDR500~600).

    You're basically paying extra 30 quids just for the LED. For that price you can buy PQI DDR500 already (correct me if I'm wrong)
    OK. But I know I need faster RAM than what I have at the moment though.. sure it will run on what I have now, but I'd like something decent too.

    I'm going to get this then;
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...stix_Kits.html
    "Crucial 1GB (2x512MB) DDR PC4000 Ballistix Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT6464Z503) (MY-041-CR)"

    That's not the one with LED's on... it's faster than what I have now, and it should be good for when I get a 64-bit capable mobo and 64-bit CPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XA04
    Yeah... but I have to upgrade over time though, I can't buy RAM for my system now AND for when I go 64-bit, I need RAM for now and then, so even if I benefit a little now at least I'm one step closer to becoming 64-bit..


    OK. But I know I need faster RAM than what I have at the moment though.. sure it will run on what I have now, but I'd like something decent too.

    I'm going to get this then;
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...stix_Kits.html
    "Crucial 1GB (2x512MB) DDR PC4000 Ballistix Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT6464Z503) (MY-041-CR)"

    That's not the one with LED's on... it's faster than what I have now, and it should be good for when I get a 64-bit capable mobo and 64-bit CPU.
    I would expect the high speed ram to drop price for another 60 quids when you finally got your upgrade so basically it will cost the same but you will have 2 more sticks of ram.

    I bought my pair of DDR566 at 200 quids last year and now they don't even worth 100. What do you think? If I had bought cheapo ram last year then upgrade to faster ram this year, I would have saved 20 odd quids. But afterall its your money.
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    Hmmmm, that's interesting. Didn't know it would drop that much that fast.

    Although there may be a price drop, it would still be decent RAM for going 64-bit right? Even if it was a year on..


    Might look around for something cheaper, what speed RAM should I look at then?

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    If you upgrade over time , by the time you get to cpu etc other parts will be out of date. Its just not a good way to do things.

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    Fair enough. Looks like I'm just going to have to save up and get everything at once.

    I've just looked in my mobo manual and I think the maximum speed it supports is PC2700 anyway..


    Thanks for the help guys.

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    Its best to get everything together. SAy mobo,cpu and ram and it really doesnt have to be that expensive. Look at scan bundles etc and see how much you need or more importantly what you want.

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    upgrading overtime is definately a bad idea as mentioned.

    For the instances when you get the urge to upgrade a part of your system open an obscure savings account which is online only (such as sainsburys bank) and stick the cash in there, before you know it you'd have saved enough for a whole system, and cause its online only your not tempted to get it out for a few more jars down the pub.


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