PSU Calculator

[mnemonik23]

Does anyone else find that the overclock voltage will only go to one decimal place now. It used to be more. Going up in 0.1v is quite a difference.

Fixed. Thanks for the heads up!

[mnemonik23]

December 5, 2007


eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Update


The following changes were made in Lite and Pro versions:


Graphics Cards

- added ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro 512MB


CPUs

- added Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3000 MHz Yorkfield XE
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E6540 2333 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2200 MHz Allendale
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 2400 MHz Allendale

- added Intel Xeon E5205 1866 MHz Wolfdale-DP
- added Intel Xeon X5260 3333 MHz Wolfdale-DP
- added Intel Xeon X5272 3400 MHz Wolfdale-DP
- added Intel Xeon E5405 2000 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5410 2333 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5420 2500 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5430 2667 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5440 2833 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5450 3000 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon X5450 3000 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon X5460 3166 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5462 2800 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon E5472 3000 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon X5472 3000 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon X5482 3200 MHz Harpertown
- added Intel Xeon X5365 G0 3000 MHz Clovertown
- added Intel Xeon 3065 2333 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Xeon 3075 2667 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Xeon 3085 3000 MHz Conroe

- added Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2180 2000 MHz Allendale
- added Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2200 2200 MHz Allendale
- added Intel Celeron 220 1200 MHz Conroe-L

- added AMD Athlon X2 BE-2400 2300 MHz Brisbane


eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

[Agent]

I've just done some cross-checking with actual load readings via power measuring meters - The figures it is giving is well off

[mnemonik23]

January 8, 2008

The following changes were made:

Graphics Cards:

- added NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 256MB
- added NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB

- added ATI Radeon HD 3850 256MB
- added ATI Radeon HD 3850 512MB
- added ATI Radeon HD 3870


CPUs:

- added Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2667 MHz Wolfdale
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3000 MHz Wolfdale
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3166 MHz Wolfdale
- added Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2833 MHz Yorkfield
- added Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2667 MHz Yorkfield
- added Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2500 MHz Yorkfield

- added AMD Phenom 9500 2200 MHz Agena
- added AMD Phenom 9550 2200 MHz Agena
- added AMD Phenom 9600 2300 MHz Agena
- added AMD Phenom 9650 2300 MHz Agena
- added AMD Phenom 9700 2400 MHz Agena
- added AMD Phenom 9900 2600 MHz Agena


eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

[Blitzen]

These PSU calculators are a waste of time.
Even if they gave a 'ball-park' figure they might be useful but they dont.

[Agent]

Indeed. I'm very close to closing this thread as its so inaccurate. The figures its giving off are not even close to real world ones. I can't see how anyone could find this of use.
Its just giving newbies the wrong readings, the very people who we need to teach that Amps are as important as Watts.

[mnemonik23]

These PSU calculators are a waste of time.
Even if they gave a 'ball-park' figure they might be useful but they dont.

That's because people do not read.

Indeed. I'm very close to closing this thread as its so inaccurate. The figures its giving off are not even close to real world ones. I can't see how anyone could find this of use.
Its just giving newbies the wrong readings, the very people who we need to teach that Amps are as important as Watts.

Regarding amperes. Please read closely under blinking word ATTENTION in red here:
eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5
Amps are in Pro version, but the recommended Watt results from Lite provide you with an idea about PSU wattage. Recommended doesn't mean required.

Also, because you can not provide the sufficient load for your PSU (because not all components are loaded), while checking the results with kill-a-watt, it doesn't mean that one day (when that load occurs) it will not bite you back. Please tell me what you did to load your PSU when kill-a-wat was plugged in?

You have all necessary adjustments to get very, I repeat very close results to real life ones.
Ocers with experience know how to use it. I can not recommend newbies to use the System Load and TDP Utilization less than 85% unless they know what they do. Yes, there is an overhead and I do not hide it. The overhead is not dramatically big and I always say better have an overhead rather than be sorry later.

I've seen many "fried' PC components because of high load and when some of the PSUs protections just failed to prevent that overload. Mostly because of cheap PSUs... But anyway, 99% of the time newbie might choose some cheap PSU that can not deliver what it suppose to deliver.

Heck, a few very known PC manufacturers use our calculator and find it very useful. But if you think it's bad, oh well, you can always close this topic.



Cheers!
mnemonik23

[this_is_gav]

I can't read the 10th page (when I click it it just keeps putting me back onto the 9th page), so forgive me if this has been repeated or explained.

You're essentially advertising your (or someone's) Pro product. By your own admission you (or the company you publicise) deliberately mislead customers through only publishing wattages in your (or the company you publicise) 'lite' package, and force them to purchase the 'pro' package to gain access to the actual representative figures? Wattage means nothing in PCs - by choosing to leave amp figures out of your (need I repeat?) free lite packing your (...) website is essentially worthless, and merely an advertising front.

[mnemonik23]

I can't read the 10th page (when I click it it just keeps putting me back onto the 9th page), so forgive me if this has been repeated or explained.

You're essentially advertising your (or someone's) Pro product. By your own admission you (or the company you publicise) deliberately mislead customers through only publishing wattages in your (or the company you publicise) 'lite' package, and force them to purchase the 'pro' package to gain access to the actual representative figures? Wattage means nothing in PCs - by choosing to leave amp figures out of your (need I repeat?) free lite packing your (...) website is essentially worthless, and merely an advertising front.

If we wanted to deliberately mislead customers, there won't be any warning messages about Wattage and that it gives just a general idea on what to look for BUT it is NOT a crucial factor in power supply selection.

If we wanted to force customers to buy a Pro version, believe me, there will be no Lite version. Oh, but this would upset many smart folks that already figured out how to use Lite version and have necessary results with Amps. Should we close it? Maybe, we will think about it.

Again, lite version just gives you a general idea on what to look for and DOES NOT FORCE you to buy a power supply with recommended wattage.

From the marketing side, if you want something better - you have to pay for it. Isn't how this works?
We set such a ridiculously small subscription fee for Pro version that after all transaction fees and taxes it doesn't even cover the effort spent for research, hardware/components and maintenance. Don't you think we deserve a little something for this?

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[this_is_gav]

Again, lite version just gives you a general idea on what to look for and DOES NOT FORCE you to buy a power supply with recommended wattage.

From the marketing side, if you want something better - you have to pay for it. Isn't how this works?
We set such a ridiculously small subscription fee for Pro version that after all transaction fees and taxes it doesn't even cover the effort spent for research, hardware/components and maintenance. Don't you think we deserve a little something for this?

But it doesn't give you a general idea if the people it's aimed at (casual techies who have no real idea what they're looking for) just see 480w or something, and go out and buy the first ~480w PSU they see. It's of no benefit at all. The people who do know that a cheapy PSU is useless generally won't need your tool anyway, be it pro or lite.

I've no problem with you selling a tool. None what-so-ever, but by pushing the lite version as a promotional tool suggests to me how little consideration you have for your customers. 'Buy our full product for any meaningful figure at all, but in the meantime here are some ones which are of no benefit to you at all'. Again, I don't mind your selling something, but your choice of promotion is potentially harmful in itself.

[306maxi]

But it doesn't give you a general idea if the people it's aimed at (casual techies who have no real idea what they're looking for) just see 480w or something, and go out and buy the first ~480w PSU they see. It's of no benefit at all. The people who do know that a cheapy PSU is useless generally won't need your tool anyway, be it pro or lite.

I've no problem with you selling a tool. None what-so-ever, but by pushing the lite version as a promotional tool suggests to me how little consideration you have for your customers. 'Buy our full product for any meaningful figure at all, but in the meantime here are some ones which are of no benefit to you at all'. Again, I don't mind your selling something, but your choice of promotion is potentially harmful in itself.

Not necessarily.

Firstly it has a warning on there with a nice red flashing ATTENTION sign saying that this version of the PSU calculator gives only an approximate idea and that you should check the 12v and other rails.....

Secondly it's very useful for enthusiasts just to make sure that everything "should" run fine.

At the end of the day they have the right to make money. Simple as that. If they wanted to be spiteful they could lock it all away and make you pay to get even a general idea. How dare they let you use a cutdown version of the program they worked long and hard on! How dare they! Next time a game publisher releases a demo for a game I'm going to send them an angry letter saying how it only gives me a general idea of how the game is going to be, how it's just advertising and how I don't think of the wider picture when I go off the deep end.

I also don't think the market for the pay product is enthusiasts. I think it's people who are possibly building their first PC and are not quite sure about what sort of PSU they should use less they risk ****ing up their brand new £800 bunch of parts

[this_is_gav]

You didn't really read my post, did you?

I stated several times that I don't have a problem with promotion, or with selling that product, but their means of doing so. A game publisher selling a demo is doing just that - you get a cut down version to play with, and if you like it, you might consider buying the full one. This isn't like that - it's offering worthless, free advice, which if followed on its own by those with little knowledge, can potentially harm that "brand new £800 bunch of parts".

The full version can be handy for enthusiasts, but enthusiasts should know what's needed anyway. You shouldn't need an interactive webpage to tell you 13amps on a single 12v rail isn't going to power 2 hard drives and an HD2900 - there's certainly no point in the free product for them.

[mnemonik23]

March 12, 2008

The following changes were made:

Graphics Cards:

- added NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
- added NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 1024MB
- added ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2

CPUs:

- added Intel Core 2 Duo E8190 2667 MHz Wolfdale
- added Intel Celeron E1200 1600 MHz Allendale
- added Intel Xeon E3110 3000 MHz Wolfdale

- added AMD Athlon X2 4850e 2500 MHz
- added AMD Sempron 64 3800+ 2200 MHz AM2 Manilla
- added AMD Sempron 64 3000+ EE 1600 MHz AM2 Manilla
- added AMD Sempron 64 3200+ EE 1800 MHz AM2 Manilla
- added AMD Sempron 64 3400+ EE 1800 MHz AM2 Manilla
- added AMD Sempron 64 3500+ EE 2000 MHz AM2 Manilla
- added AMD Sempron 64 LE-1100 1900 MHz AM2 Sparta
- added AMD Sempron 64 LE-1150 2000 MHz AM2 Sparta
- added AMD Sempron 64 LE-1200 2100 MHz AM2 Sparta
- added AMD Sempron 64 LE-1250 2200 MHz AM2 Sparta
- added AMD Sempron 64 LE-1300 2300 MHz AM2 Sparta

Pro version:

Added ability to select 3-Way SLI and Quad CrossFire X in Pro version.

eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite

[-iceblade^]

this CPU calculator is good, but tbth, i worry a bit about its accuracy...

[Thorsson]

It's a PSU calc, not CPU. Is this old thread revival day or sumfink?