Thank good i finaly got speed fan to act right and the fans are running at 5% idle temp for cpu is 42c (during the day at night it drops to 37c) Load temps never get past 52c. Iam pretty lucky that i live about 5-10mins from the beach so i always have a cool/cold breeze. Now i dont have to yell to talk to my wife... next up is to replace the ice fan with a 120mm fan and to cut out the honey comb. i want to use a dremel to cut it out but i really dont want to take out the motherboard, so i will proably just use a pair of snips.. then iam gonna cut a window and through some mesh in there... i want to paint my case but iam just so lazy = ).