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    Just to be devil's advocate, i have to mention Intel chipsets here.
    Now, i am not an Intel fanboy, even though my current system is a P4, but Intel chipsets are renowned for being rock solid. Sure, the CPUs are not considered to be best value for money / performance, but if rock solid is number 1 priority you'd be silly to ignore it.

    Try this 945 chipset-based motherboard, for £79, plus this Dual core P4 for £175.
    £250 for a dual-core system that WILL be rock solid, can't be ignored as an option.

    That said, i'll probably be getting an AMD system for my next upgrade
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    And as an alternative, just checked on Scan:

    If you don't want a mATX mobo with on-board VGA, but want full ATX and to add your own graphics, this one may be best (Asus P5LD2). £78.
    The dual-core 2.8 P4 is also cheaper at Scan here at £163. Total = £243.98 (and of course you get free shipping being a Hexus poster.

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    The Intel chipsets are excellent, i totaly agree with you
    I think some of the issues that the NF2 had gave the Nforce platform a bit of a bad name. It slowly seems to be getting rid of it when people can see its probably the most stable one for AMD based systems at the moment though
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    NF4 BIOS are very good imo

    Intel are rock solid platforms, but you can't OC them for shiznit so whats the point
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    Like said Nforce 4 boards are a lot better than NF2. DFI still have problems, such as cold boots, etc though.

    The most stable out of the box boards are probably Asus NF4's, not the most overclockable, but there good enough ofr most people and they work. After a DFI NF3, i said no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey21
    Like said Nforce 4 boards are a lot better than NF2. DFI still have problems, such as cold boots, etc though.

    The most stable out of the box boards are probably Asus NF4's, not the most overclockable, but there good enough ofr most people and they work. After a DFI NF3, i said no thanks.
    Asus also get cold boot issues and indeed a mate of mine built his system, and it had no video (right out of the box). It can happen to all motherboards. Personally I've had no issues (apart from self inflicted) with my 3 DFI's....not as much can be said with my previous Asus' or MSI's or *whispers* foxconn's
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    Quote Originally Posted by kempez815
    Asus also get cold boot issues and indeed a mate of mine built his system, and it had no video (right out of the box). It can happen to all motherboards. Personally I've had no issues (apart from self inflicted) with my 3 DFI's....not as much can be said with my previous Asus' or MSI's or *whispers* foxconn's
    Well thats your experience.

    Browsing the amount of hardware forums i do, DFI have a lot more problems than any other board. Sure it doesn't mean you will have a problem if you buy a DFI board, but your sure as hell more likely. Unless you need insane volts, the DFI boards are a waste of time IMO. High HTT has very little effect to an A64, as the memory controller is already very efficient.

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    The main issue DFI boards have is with people who:

    A) Don't know how to use them

    B) Don't research which memory to use

    C) don't bother trying much

    D) use a crappy PSU

    I've been a member of the DFI official support forums for ages and found that almost every "problem" gets caused by the above. The NF3 Rev 1 had a hardware problem, but all the NF4 boards have been very good and the issues are pretty much all "user error".

    I've seen issues with Asus boards too and your experience is your experience too (perhaps unlucky with Rev 1 of the NF3). Its the same with most manufactorers. I have to say that I've easily seen far more issues with MSI boards than DFI

    N.B. The NF3 board now has a hardware revision and works fine.
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    I agree with you about the memory, PSU, knowledge etc, but they can still be flakey.

    Fact of the matter is, Asus Nforce 4, is a more stable board, than a DFI. which is all i wanted to say anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kempez815
    The main issue DFI boards have is with people who:

    A) Don't know how to use them

    B) Don't research which memory to use

    C) don't bother trying much

    D) use a crappy PSU

    I've been a member of the DFI official support forums for ages and found that almost every "problem" gets caused by the above. The NF3 Rev 1 had a hardware problem, but all the NF4 boards have been very good and the issues are pretty much all "user error".
    Similar experience on Abit.
    The worst for it imo are the Fatalities because they do attract a certain type of person who may not have the technical experience/knowledge to really set them up properly.

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