Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Problematic SN95

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Problematic SN95

    Relaly don't know what's going on with my machine, but I hope someone out there can help me out here...

    Was playing BF2 on my machine last night (see spec in 'My System') without any problems.....no glitches, no hiccups, no worries. Had to go out, so quit and shut down as normal.

    When I returned, about 3 hours later, I switched on the machine and it started fine, booted to windows, loaded BF2, and then about 45secs into the game, is did a complete restart. Not a CTD, not BSOD, just a complete restart, as though I had pushed the reset button.
    It then froze at post.
    Then it froze when I reset and tried to get into the Bios.
    Then it just sat there, with a blank screen, no activity, and just all the fans spinning at 100% like the do when you very first turn a Shuttle on.
    After a little while (and a few more instances of the above) it got back into windows, but was very unstable, crashing and resetting all over the place.
    It wouldn't even perform a scandisk fully (I wanted to make sure that all the info on the HD was intact, even if the PC was kakked) resetting part way through that.

    Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to try? I really have no explanation as to why it's suddenly started doing this, and up until the last time I used it properly, was working flawlessly.

    Any help would be really appreciated.

  2. #2
    Splash
    Guest
    personally I'd be looking at reseating everything, giving any fans a clean and maybe redoing any thermal paste.

    Once that's done see if you can run memtest or something similar. Do you by any chance have another machine you could swap parts out with?

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    I have a copy of BurnInTest that I could run.....would that suffice? (assuming i can even get the machine into windows!)

    Unfortunately, this is my only machine at the moment.....I've been planning a second, but so far that's as far as it's got.....a plan. So no, I have no parts with which to chop and change.

  4. #4
    HEXUS.bouncer Jonny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Gainsville, Rock City Uni: Newcastle
    Posts
    1,489
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Turn off, unplug, reset CMOS, clear dust out, check there's no loose bits (i.e. all fans plugged in, everything seated correctly), plug back in, power on...

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    So it seems that so far reseating is my first port of call....

    Why would things become unseated whilst not being moved around?

  6. #6
    Nox
    Nox is offline
    Vorsprung durch Technik
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Hampshire
    Posts
    2,023
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts
    • Nox's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Yes
      • CPU:
      • Yes
      • Memory:
      • Yes
      • Storage:
      • Yes
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Yes
      • PSU:
      • Yes
      • Case:
      • Yes
      • Monitor(s):
      • Yes
      • Internet:
      • Yes
    I've had something similar, turned out to be the HD, or atleast the windows install on the HD. But I would initially go with the above.

    Its never been the same since... Keeps corrupting data, very occasionally, and all testing, including work utils, report all is fine :/

    Nox

  7. #7
    Nox
    Nox is offline
    Vorsprung durch Technik
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Hampshire
    Posts
    2,023
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts
    • Nox's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Yes
      • CPU:
      • Yes
      • Memory:
      • Yes
      • Storage:
      • Yes
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Yes
      • PSU:
      • Yes
      • Case:
      • Yes
      • Monitor(s):
      • Yes
      • Internet:
      • Yes
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx
    So it seems that so far reseating is my first port of call....

    Why would things become unseated whilst not being moved around?
    Electricity vibrates. Well, AC does atleast, not sure about DC.

    Nox

  8. #8
    HEXUS.bouncer Jonny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Gainsville, Rock City Uni: Newcastle
    Posts
    1,489
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    And with heat, things expand and contract. They are always moving, and that's the one of the reasons things die over time.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Okey dokey.......I shall be attempting the above things tonight, and shall report back in the morning......with smiles or tears......

    Either way, thanks all for the input......although more may be required....

  10. #10
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,856
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    872 times in 736 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre
    I would be checking the PSU first if I had a spare.....
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  11. #11
    Nox
    Nox is offline
    Vorsprung durch Technik
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Hampshire
    Posts
    2,023
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts
    • Nox's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Yes
      • CPU:
      • Yes
      • Memory:
      • Yes
      • Storage:
      • Yes
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Yes
      • PSU:
      • Yes
      • Case:
      • Yes
      • Monitor(s):
      • Yes
      • Internet:
      • Yes
    OK, my comment about my HD still stands, but... Its not the most likely cause. Its just my most recent, so ignore it. (i'm still miffed !! had to download DDO beta gain.)

    Firstly, turn off the bit that reboots your machine without a BSOD - system properties, advanced, take the tick out of automatically restart.

    Hopefully, you will now get a BSOD, and you can work with the error message. If you don't, and it still resets, it could be hardware. But reinstalling windows is free, and thats the key. Try memtest86+ At work, random reboots ar usually memory related. The only downside is its not necessarily the ram module memory, could be cache on the cpu, gfx card memory, or even the mobo. The best bit is a rebuild takes about 3 minutes work, then leave for 2 hrs...

    Assuming you get a BSOD, ignore it (yes lol) Get another, and maybe a third. See if they are all the same. Bung the error into google, see if someone else had had the problem, and what they did to fix it. Even if they are different google is worth checking, just means you are getting more than one fault.

    The thing to remember is, there are 100+ different reasons a computer could do this... You need to narrow down the cause, or find more info.

    Nox

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Well, it's the morning, and as promised, I'm reporting in......



    ........so, guess you're all waiting with baited breath.......not.

    Anyway, did a reseat of most of the components, as suggested by a fair few of you, and tried that. No luck.....in fact it all seemed to make it worse, as now it wouldn't even get past the initial power up......ie: fans on full, no signal to the monitor, no nothing.
    Bum.
    Right.....cpu time......stripped out the innards of the box (which in a shuttle, those of you who know, means taking everything bar the psu out to get to the cpu) and removed the ICE system. This was when I realised my first problem.....I have no fresh TIM with me. (normally Arctic Silver, but just not got any with me at the moment) Hmmm...that'll be fun.
    Anyway, once the ICE was off, I removed the CPU and cleaned it off as best I could. Then, i resmeared the paste that was on the underside of the ICE (and before you all berate me, I know that's not the best idea in the world, but it was all I had at the time, and as soon as I have some, I'm gonna do fresh Arctic Silver, I promise).
    Once the CPU was reseated (making sure not to put too much pressure when inserting) I then replaced the ICE on top, and clipped it in. Once that was in, I cleared the CMOS just to be on the safe side, and then replaced the rest of the kit.
    I rebooted (which thankfully, it did this time) and reset all the info in the BIOS, and then on to Windows. It got there fine, made all the settings changes fine.......reinstalled the graphics drivers fine.....ran at least 4 runs of 3dMark 2005 with different drivers and OC settings, and rebooted many times (intentional, I hasten to add) without any problems.
    It then sat and played a DVD for over 2 hours, without any hiccups.
    Now I'm not holding my breath assuming that it's fixed.....only time will tell......but so far things are looking up.......I'm gonna give it a proper running tonight, and see what happens.
    Thanks to those who gave their advice......although you never know, I may be asking again soon....!

    Cheers guys.

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Oh well.....I'm back, and nothing is solved.

    Something must be quite wrong, as it's the most unstable computer at the moment.

    Sometime's it won't start at all (that's from cold or from a reboot) and sometime's it will go in and play a DVD or something........the worst thing is that there's no common factor as to when it's failing.......it can do it at the login screen for XP, it can do it at POST, it can do it after 1 hour of gaming......

    I'm really lost as to what this can be......I've never come across this before and it's totally baffled me.........really don't know where to go from here.......

    Any help would be appreciated, as I've kinda lost all hope with it......

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    223
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Try www.sfftech.com as you sound like youve got a common problem with the SN95G5 it would't happen to be a V1 would it?
    Vorsprung Durch Technik

  15. #15
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Southampton
    Posts
    32
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    This is sounding like a motherboard or power supply problem. Do any of your friends have PC's that you'd be able to test memory, hard drive, graphics and cpu in?

    It also might be worth borrowing a friends PSU, sit it on the desk with your case open as it wont fit in the shuttle (obviously ). That's at least one further thing that can be discarded from the equation.

    My money is on motherboard or power supply.

  16. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Staffs, UK
    Posts
    172
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    tino - yup......it's v1 alright........v1.2 to be precise.....

    Quick update: A friend of mine (IT Manager blokey) has been looking at it for me, and has thoroughly tested as many components as he can lay his hand on....he pretty much discounted the DVD and Hard Drive, as they wouldn't cause the problems my machine has been having. So, he's swapped out (at different points and altogether) the g/card, memory and psu.......and it still has the problem when running dual channel.....it only does it then.....and with different sticks of memory, so it's decidedly the motherboard or the CPU (what with the mem controller being on the CPU itself) not liking two sticks of mem to deal with........and at the moment, I don't have a spare CPU with which to test the theory......so opinions if you please.......which is the most likely......?!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. SN95 Issues
    By LWA in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 26-09-2005, 09:22 AM
  2. SN95 Issues and Problems, Please Help
    By LWA in forum SCAN.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-09-2005, 07:52 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •