x2 duel core/ single core

[MON]

IS it me or does them duel core chips run hotter than the single core amd ???

[[GSV]Trig]

My x2 3800 doesnt seem to run much hotter, depends what your cooling them with really, and as long as its stable who cares how hot it runs

[MON]

i was on to asus tech and they said the x2 run hotter than the single .. and other computer sellers builders .. thats before i replaced the standard crap cooler..

[Hans Voralberg]

It's run cooler in my case, but then i dont push it as much, my 4200+ is unoverclockable.

[Smokey21]

Well use your head, 2 cores, are gonna get hotter than 1. Thought that was pretty obvious

[FatalSaviour]

Considering some of the X2 TDP's are identical to those of some single core CPUs, it may not be obvious to all.
My temps seem to be about 4 degrees hotter at load or idle if that helps you MON.
However, the aluminium stock cooler that came with my X2 4200+ seems to be horrible, worse than the the copper based one that came with my 3200+. Hope that helps m8y

[MON]

Well use your head, 2 cores, are gonna get hotter than 1. Thought that was pretty obvious

yea i no but i am getting alot of "they run at the same temp situation" i was saying in different due there are two chips as one. so more heat!!

anyway smoker why so dam attitude problem only asking a question are you not the one WHO can not fit the right cable to the xfi??? i mean there is one supplyed..Thought that was pretty obvious

AND THE INSTRUCTIONS HAVE PICTURES .. mmm wot we need for you is a pop up book instructions

so you leaned something here Smokey21 .. DO NOT GIVE IT OUT IF YOU DO NOT NO THE BASICS

[MON]

Considering some of the X2 TDP's are identical to those of some single core CPUs, it may not be obvious to all.
My temps seem to be about 4 degrees hotter at load or idle if that helps you MON.
However, the aluminium stock cooler that came with my X2 4200+ seems to be horrible, worse than the the copper based one that came with my 3200+. Hope that helps m8y

same here mate i bet the xp 3200 whould of been better for cooling than that x2 standard cooler ..the standard coolers crap and i HAD TO PAY FOR IT they should be all copper based now .. or the higher end heat pipe version

also so even the x2 4200 has all aluminium .. when does the standard x2 change to the heat-pipe version?

p.s thanks for a intelligent reply mate

[MON]

FatalSaviour

wot aftermarket cooler are you useing?

[dave87]

yea i no but i am getting alot of "they run at the same temp situation" i was saying in different due there are two chips as one. so more heat!!

anyway smoker why so dam attitude problem only asking a question are you not the one WHO can not fit the right cable to the xfi??? i mean there is one supplyed..Thought that was pretty obvious

AND THE INSTRUCTIONS HAVE PICTURES .. mmm wot we need for you is a pop up book instructions

so you leaned something here Smokey21 .. DO NOT GIVE IT OUT IF YOU DO NOT NO THE BASICS

Jeez MON, calm it down. The principles of physics that Smokey is refering to are sound. 2 Cores will run hotter than one, but it depends on the usage and design of the chip on how much. Intel had the major problem on their first dual core run that they shoved 2 of their hottest running cores onto one chip, and as a result had problems with heat. So in reply to your original question, Yes, Dual Cores will run hotter than Single Cores, but will usually have better cooling than comparable single cores to compensate.

Dave

[MON]

Jeez MON, calm it down. The principles of physics that Smokey is refering to are sound. 2 Cores will run hotter than one, but it depends on the usage and design of the chip on how much. Intel had the major problem on their first dual core run that they shoved 2 of their hottest running cores onto one chip, and as a result had problems with heat. So in reply to your original question, Yes, Dual Cores will run hotter than Single Cores, but will usually have better cooling than comparable single cores to compensate.

Dave

the 3800 x2 chip came with the standard aluminaum cooler like the single .. this should have been upgraded.. i have now a freezer 64..

thnaks for that mate

[FatalSaviour]

I'm running on the stock aluminium cooler at the moment, but will be moving over to the Scythe Ninja when my motherboard has been replaced.
The 3200+ I was talking about was also the Athlon 64.
I think all of the Dual Core CPUs and Opterons should start shipping with the new heatpipe cooler soon.

[schmunk]

By the way MON, you haven't mentioned what your temperature readings are, but anything less than about 60degC should be fine (noting that mobo and CPU temperature sensors are generally pretty inaccurate).

For reference, graphics cards are generally OK up to 100degC - I had one with a badly fitted passive cooler which only cut out when it was reading 114degC...

[MON]

By the way MON, you haven't mentioned what your temperature readings are, but anything less than about 60degC should be fine (noting that mobo and CPU temperature sensors are generally pretty inaccurate).

For reference, graphics cards are generally OK up to 100degC - I had one with a badly fitted passive cooler which only cut out when it was reading 114degC...

thanks mate
i was running 41-44 mb and 51-59 CPU but now 44- 55 CPU and 36-40mb thats with 3dmark06 full test .. only asked due to my mates runs alot cooler (got confused) .. but now no it is a venice chip and seen some readings of over sites and it is running right .. also due to ai-booster was clocking it that i did not no.. can run cooler if i adjust the v-core
.. that gf card was hot .. hottest i had my old 5950 was 80 but that was due to dust needed cleaning out

[Butcher]

2 cores is roughly twice the heat of one (logically enough), however due to them being twice as big the heat density doesn't increase so they're easier to cool. That's why dual cores don't need much more cooling than single cores.

[ExceededGoku]

erm I completely disagree with the majority of posters in this topic, I have a dual core Opteron 175 @ 2.4Ghz and at load it barely reaches 40 degrees when my single core 64 3500+ loaded at 43 degrees. I think this is down to higher voltages with teh single core and also I had the venice which had a bigger core, so depending it takes ages.