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    Enough juice from my PSU?

    Want to upgrade on a budget by replacing mobo and cpu

    I'm using a silentX 300W ATX PSU, cost about £50 IIRC (I now know this was overpriced) but hope its good quality?

    My current System

    1) 2.26 P4
    2) Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro-G
    3) 2*512MB Crucial RAM
    4) Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
    5) Samsung 160GB 8MB
    6) X-Fi Extreme Music
    7) DVD/CDRW combo
    8) 2*120mm fans

    Want to get an AS-Rock DUAL SATA2 (One with AGP and pci-e) and a 3500+ or if you think thats a strugle would a 3200+ be ok?

    Thanks

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    well AMDs have a lot lower power load than intel procesors so if your current setup is fine then you should have no problem powering your system. However, I think it may be a bit weak if you're looking to play games.

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    • BenW's system
      • Motherboard:
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      • Graphics card(s):
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      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12 600W
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    Yup, looking to play games but i play games on the system at the moment too

    But does an AMD so much faster still have a lower power draw?

    EDIT: Just looked up specs and i think it said AMD 3500+ had thermal guideline (Is this what i want?) of 67W and my P4 has 56W
    Last edited by BenW; 03-04-2006 at 09:46 AM.

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    It's faster for gaming, yeah. I'm not sure that your PSU would be enough, ATI recommend that when using a 9800pro, you have a 350w minimum. Although I'm unfamiliar with the brand, it could be a decent PSU though and cope well enough. I consider upgrading it anyway though. Perhaps to a Hiper Type-R 580w, reasonably priced and very good PSU's, modular too.

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    • BenW's system
      • Motherboard:
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      • CPU:
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      • 1GB Crucial DDR
      • Storage:
      • 160GB Samsung 8MB Cache
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Radeon HD 3850
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12 600W
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    I was running the radeon with very similar spec to my current on an old dell 250W....lasted about a week!

    The PSU was expensive so i hope its ok, is there any way to see how its coping with its current load?

    If i was to get a new PSU i'd probably go for the seasonic S12, quiet operation is my priority. BUT i don't want a new PSU, i'm only just 17 and its hard enough to get the money together for CPU and motherboard!

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    • BenW's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock Dual SATA2
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      • Memory:
      • 1GB Crucial DDR
      • Storage:
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      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Radeon HD 3850
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12 600W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ-04
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 17" Ultrasharp
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 8Mb
    So can anyone tell me how many amps i should be looking for on my 12V line?

    Thanks

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    • aidanjt's system
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    you spent plenty on the soundcard
    One of these can be picked up fairly cheaply at overclockers.co.uk and it'll run pretty much anything: Tagan TG430-U15 430W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi PSU £55.17
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    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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    • BenW's system
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    thats not cheap to a 17 year old who has no job (as of yet)!!

    I've looked on the PSU and here are the specs

    3.3V - 30A
    5V - 30A
    12V - 15A

    Should be ok....right?

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    • aidanjt's system
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    It's slightly better than your 300W for £50 deal

    and yes, them rails should provide ample current, the only problem is when you use more than 300W of energy.. something will go *pop*
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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    Lol, take it that most likely the PSU will go pop or just shut down?

    As i'm a bit of a silencing freak the PSU would probably be the next upgrade if its a bit low on power anyway.......seasonic S12 430W.......mmmm

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    yeah its a bit small should work though
    it will only crash and shut down if psu aint man enough
    u might wanna concider a bit higher range mobo and go for one thats ether pci-e or agp the dual ones cant be gd
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    on a cwt 350w psu, all seems happy.

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    • BenW's system
      • Motherboard:
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      • CPU:
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      • Memory:
      • 1GB Crucial DDR
      • Storage:
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      • Graphics card(s):
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      • PSU:
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      • Case:
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    Thanks, 'ifyouknowme' the asrock is meant to be a VERY good budget board so i'm going for it as i can keep my radeon and still upgrade in the future

    Flibb, thats a very similar system. Are CWT a good brand of PSU? Don't suppose you know the amp ratings on 12V?

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    Just had a quick crash around the net trying to answer that. Theres a chance Im talking out my rear end and its a 450w, will look when I get home from work. CWT were a "good" make and were stocked by scan, they are ment to have been Antecs with a different badge. Well actually certain Antecs are ment to have been made by CWT.

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    • BenW's system
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      • 1GB Crucial DDR
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      • Graphics card(s):
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      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12 600W
      • Case:
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      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 17" Ultrasharp
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    Thanks Flibb, if its a 450W then its deffinatly higher than my little 15A!

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    I don't see the new MB/cpu being much more punishing than your existing one. It is difficult to get matching TDP figures to AMD and Intel CPUs, the AMD official figures tend to be on the high side and Intel figures on the low side (not that either is cheating in some way, they are just measuring something different).

    I run a socket 754 3700+ in a Shuttle SN85G4, and that has nowhere near 300W. Old clawhammer CPU too, modern ones should be more frugal.

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