View Poll Results: When will you upgrade to AM2?

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  • As soon as the cpu's are out

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  • When Vista is out

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  • 2-4 months

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  • 4+ months

    14 10.61%
  • I'm fine with my 939 thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oobie-
    Am I right in saying that the slight downside to DDR2 is the CAS timings?

    I want a new system in June...but I don't wan to buy it and go "oh I should have waited a few months cause I now realise that DDR2 is "where its at""
    theres no real advantage to ddr2, tight timings will make up for ddr2's bandwidth

    which makes 939 supposedly better for gamers but am2 better for all the previous intel-pwned stuff... except for the fact that the 939 chips will be left behind when the AM2s get faster

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    You will be able to buy sooner than you think....

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    Oooh monsieur, you really are tempting us.... Can't you give us any more info?
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    you can use some old heatsinks inc the arctic freezer 64 which should be good news to a lot of people, i put a new thread here:
    http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?p=772374

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    Intel's dual-core CPUs seem to be priced much better than AMD's and this trend seems to continue with Conroe.

    E4200 1.60GHz 2MB 0800MHz 65W Q4 $169
    E6200 1.60GHz 2MB 1066MHz 65W Q4 $179
    E6300 1.86GHz 2MB 1066MHz 65W Q3 $209
    E6400 2.13GHz 2MB 1066MHz 65W Q3 $239
    E6500 2.40GHz 2MB 1066MHz 65W Q4 $269
    E6600 2.40GHz 4MB 1066MHz 65W Q3 $309
    E6700 2.67GHz 4MB 1066MHz 65W Q3 $529
    E6800 2.93GHz 4MB 1066MHz ??? Q4 $749
    E6900 3.20GHz 4MB 1066MHz ??? Q4 $969
    E8000 3.33GHz 4MB 1333MHz 95W Q4 $1199

    Top of the line A64 motherboards cost £120 anyway so a top of the line Intel board for £150 is not a lot more. The LGA socket pushes up the cost of the board slightly anyway, but the Intel chipsets are priced at a premium. Once conroe is released more affordable boards should crop up. Why would you buy a board for Conroe now anyway if you don't plan to use it?

    I remember a few years ago I bought a Tbred-b 2100+ which was outperformed by Northwood cos it was cheaper. I may well do that again but AMD do have to be competitive on pricing otherwise it's the same situation as single core P4's today.

    Something relevant: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2489
    Last edited by chilled; 25-05-2006 at 07:15 PM.

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    I have just spotted on tom's hardware that, the new AM2 chips have support for TCPA, which for me is a very bad thing, that I would like no where near my computer.

    (TCPA is a system that enables the OS to take control from the PC's owner and and hand it to the RIAA and the like to prevent them from doing stuff they want to do, such as copy MP3s or video. A future TCPA equipped computer might refuse to load a music file unless it comes with certificates proving that it is licenced, so if you are a musician, and have created it yourself, then you are SOL).

    http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/05/23...uk/page19.html

    To anyone who has reviewed an AM2 system, did you see any BIOS options to disable TCPA? If I had such a system I would like to be able to turn TCPA off, so that if a Sony rootkit attempted to use TCPA features, the BIOS would just refuse.

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    Waiting for more AM2 v Conroe comparisons......especially in a wide-array of games.

    Not sure either are worth upgrading to unless they offer serious speed-boosts for me. We shall see
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilled
    Intel's dual-core CPUs seem to be priced much better than AMD's and this trend seems to continue with Conroe.
    Originally Intels dual cores were far far cheaper than AMDs X2s. I think they still are - the 805 is pretty cheap compared to the cheapest X2

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    lots of news here:
    http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2531

    -conroe will apparently be available end of july
    -current intel chips will be cut in price to shift them
    -new santa ana core AM2 opteron comes out a couple of weeks before that date, enough to OC it and see what it can do

    i hope that dual opteron will give intel a good beating, theres a fair chance seeing as amd have moved to a new production plant since the old ones, then at least they would hold the fastest chip crown even if intel has all the mainstream money for the rest of the year

    could be an interesting month

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    Looking at the initial Conroe figures vs the new AM2's anyone that was expecting great things from the AM2's must be a proper fan boi, all there doing is changing the ram type, there were never going to be massive gains, especially when the current chips dont need the extra bandwidth from the new ram, the rest of this year IMHO will goto Intel and most likely half of next, when AMD has settled into the AM2 socket and we start seeing new core revisions then we'll see how they go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by -ChEM-
    lots of news here:

    i hope that dual opteron will give intel a good beating, theres a fair chance seeing as amd have moved to a new production plant since the old ones, then at least they would hold the fastest chip crown even if intel has all the mainstream money for the rest of the year
    I think that would be unlikely at best.

    I don't hope either way - infact I would prefer the lead to switch between the two as that generates the best value for us

    But looks like this time around it's Intel. AMD had the lead with X2, but it's going to take until K8L to even begin to challenge that I think.

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    I'll probably wait to upgrade until my current CPU starts to really affect the games I'm playing. Surely that won't be any time soon with a 4400+ X2 clocked at 2.53GHz, right? I was on a completely non-overclocked-at-all XP1800+ until about the beginning of last year, and the first thing that was definitely slowed down due to the CPU was Half-Life 2, which came out what, 2 1/2, 3 years after I bought that chip? I can't see an upgrade from a reasonably high-end CPU of today (especially a dual-core one) being "necessary" for anything other than e-penis scores for the next 18 months/2 years at least.

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    I will probably get Conroe at some point but until AMD brings out something really nice on AM2 I don't see the point
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