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    Exclamation Building new AM2 System - Need review!

    https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion...aming+Rig+%232

    Only problems I have are, and I would like to address before I make my purchase is the compatibility.

    The MSI website says the following.

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    •Supports 64-bit AMD® Athlon™ 64 / Athlon 64FX / Athlon 64 X2 processor (Socket AM2)
    •Supports Athlon 64 CPU: 3500+, 3800+
    •Supports Athlon 64FX CPU: FX-62
    •Supports Athlon 64 X2 CPU: 3800+, 4000+, 4200, 4400+, 4600+, 4800+, 5000+, 5200+

    The processor I have is a 3000+. I'm not sure if it will be compatible or not. Also the ram timings are 4-5-4-15.

    Here is the motherboard website: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...tinum&class=mb

    Thanks alot everyone. Also feel free to make some suggestions as well.

    Thanks.

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    Is AM2 a better bet than the new Intel CPU that is coming out? Conroe.

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    yes that all looks fine to me
    oh and get this graphics card instead
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    Conroe comes up July right? And I'm sure it will be much more expensive then AM2 budget systems at the moment. I'll upgrade the AM2 processor in the future as it lowers in price and they become available.

    Does the ram and processor look like it will work with the motherboard, since it explicityly states that it is for Athlon 64 3500+ and 3800+, and it does no say 3000+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pukeater
    Is AM2 a better bet than the new Intel CPU that is coming out? Conroe.
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    Thought not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jooooooe
    The processor I have is a 3000+. I'm not sure if it will be compatible or not.
    Is it your old processor? If its not a new one (i.e. AM2, came out a week or so ago) then no, unfortuantley it won't work with an AM2 motherboard as it uses a new socket design. As far as I know they didn't release a 3000+ AM2 so its unlikely.

    You may want to wait for Conroe to be released on July 23rd (or thereabouts). Its rumoured to be a fair bit better than the AM2, and as you'll need a new processor anyway it may be better to get one of these.

    Hope that clears things up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoatethepies
    Is it your old processor? If its not a new one (i.e. AM2, came out a week or so ago) then no, unfortuantley it won't work with an AM2 motherboard as it uses a new socket design. As far as I know they didn't release a 3000+ AM2 so its unlikely.

    You may want to wait for Conroe to be released on July 23rd (or thereabouts). Its rumoured to be a fair bit better than the AM2, and as you'll need a new processor anyway it may be better to get one of these.

    Hope that clears things up..
    Of coarse it's not my old Athlon XP. It's this:
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103639

    AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1.8Ghz (which i'm looking to OC a bit) Socket AM2. I really do not want to wait until July 23rd or so. In addition to the Conroe release, it will be far more expensive I'm sure, in the $600-$1000 range for the good ones. In addition to all the negativity towards AM2, I'm sure as technology advances and competetion becomes more prominant, AMD will take several measures so that they are competing with Intel on the same level once Conroe is released.

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    How much will the Conroe cost?

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    wholesale price will apparently be about £100 for a 1.86ghz/2x1mb conroe

    that will roughly compete with the x2 4400+ or 4800+ which are about £250 and £350 wholesale now

    and btw there have been other 3000+ chips since the athlonXP range

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    So is the AMD Athlon 64 3000+ compatible with the motherboard I selected?

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    Even the ram with the 4-5-4-15 timing?

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    Right now it's not a good time to build or upgrade certain components of your PC.

    As vista is coming out it would be advisable to get a DirectX 10 Graphics Card, but they are not out yet. ( probably October this year )

    AMD or Intel, AM2 or Conroe??!!! Massive debate at the moment on a lot of forums. As much as I’d like to stay loyal to AMD, the Conroe chip is much better than the AM2. Now like someone has already suggested......if you currently have a S939 system and are thinking of moving to AM2 then you'll need (a) a new mobo (b) new memory (c) new CPU. Likewise if you move to Intel you'll need all the same parts.

    Price..........rumours are flying around that Intel will price very compatibly against the AM2 to encourage the people they have lost over the past 4 years or so. Mobo’s are slightly more expensive for Intel, but only by £20-£30. (not a lot really)

    If i was you and in some ways we are in the same boat as I’m due to upgrade my CPU, GPU and Hard Drive, i would at least wait until July to see what price tag Intel give the Conroe.

    Hope this helps

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    AM2 has 940 pins, right?

    Therefore, it won't fit. At all. And it's a different pin config to regular 940 boards, meaning you *will* need a new processor.

    Correct me if I'm wrong - I've been away for a while!

    Jonny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny
    AM2 has 940 pins, right?

    Therefore, it won't fit. At all. And it's a different pin config to regular 940 boards, meaning you *will* need a new processor.

    Correct me if I'm wrong - I've been away for a while!

    Jonny
    He's buying the AM2 940pin edition of the 3000+ processor... It's the 'Orleans' model, not to be confused with the previous 939 versions.

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