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    Athlon64 - What to expect

    Just been looking around the web for some decent articles on the performance of the new Athlon64 with both 32 bit and 64 bit OS's.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of any good reviews? I know there are 64 bit versions of Linux out, but what about Windows XP? Unless you need to access > 4GB of RAM, is there any point in going 64 bit?
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    As far as I could tell when I looked a couple of weeks ago, there isnt anything on the Athlon64 as appose to the opertron.

    Its due for release in September, so we may see something from the big sites a couple of weeks before launch?

    You may find this interesting - possibly little difference between opertron and A64?

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10686

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    I believe Hexus are triyng to sort this kinda stuff for us to read

    You gotta have a 64bit Operating system as well, I guess .

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    Nope, Don't HAVE to have a 64bit os. IT sounds like 32bit systems run very well as well. I've seen nothing much on amd64, but there is plenty on the opteron's and they aren't going to be that different.

    www.theinquirer.net has had a lot of opteron stories on processing power, mboards etc over the last couple of days, i'd suggest reading a few if you are interested DaBeeeenster

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    still....I think a 64bit OS would be the way Hexus would wanna do it...hope so......

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    Re: Athlon64 - What to expect

    Originally posted by DaBeeeenster
    Just been looking around the web for some decent articles on the performance of the new Athlon64 with both 32 bit and 64 bit OS's.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of any good reviews? I know there are 64 bit versions of Linux out, but what about Windows XP? Unless you need to access > 4GB of RAM, is there any point in going 64 bit?
    ... doubt there is much argument (yet) for 64-bit OS for the home-user. The large server end and development boxes will definitely welcome it.

    As you mentioned unless you need to access more than 4GB of memory at once you would think the 64-bit capability would be unnecessary overhead rather than providing a speed increase but then if both the OS, hardware (CPU/chipset) and applications are built around 64-bit alone then maybe there will be an increase in speed.

    I've seen a few reviews on Asus's new NF3 board running with the opterons and their PR:MHz performance is frightening - but this means nothing unless AMD start to release clock speeds that exceed the current range of Bartons.

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    Erm, basically the Athlon 64 IS the Opteron 100 series. Just a cut down model. Like the durons to the origional Athlons.

    Look for opteron reviews, and it will guide you well.

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    wonder how they will run seti?! could be in for some good processing times

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    Originally posted by acidrainy
    wonder how they will run seti?! could be in for some good processing times
    Like you need them
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    Originally posted by Agent
    Like you need them
    heh, must slowly take over the world!! muhahahaha!!!!!

    erm, did i say something out loud?

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    The UT 2003 team seem to like 64 bit processors - and not just for development as they have a client 64bit version available already? It will be interesting to see the 64 bit vs 32 bit versions running on Athlon64.

    However I'm building myself up to be dissapointed. I'll hop off the fence and state that I think Intel will start to wipe the floor with AMD for 32bit code come the end of this year.

    I dont see myself needing 64bit code for a fair while yet either. Its hard to work up much enthusiasm for AMD's upcoming relase at the low clock speeds they are talking about.

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    Originally posted by THCi
    Erm, basically the Athlon 64 IS the Opteron 100 series. Just a cut down model. Like the durons to the origional Athlons.

    Look for opteron reviews, and it will guide you well.
    it looks like there will be a few different Athlon 64s :

    http://www.tech-report.com/onearticle.x/5453

    Athlon 64 1mb cache / dual DDR support (940/939 pin)
    Athlon 64 1mb cache / single DDR support (754 pin)
    Athlon 64 256k cache ("duron") / single DDR support (754 pin)

    The Athlon64's , as far as I can figure out, won't work in Dual CPU configurations, you'll need Opteron 2xx's for that...

    mmmm bring it on!!!

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    1mb Cache! damn!
    That should help out a little bit then!


    Heh, in 10 years time i will be laughing at myself for saying that!

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    I wonder how Prescott will compare?

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    Considuring Prescott is not scheduled for released until q2 2004, its not really a question we need to considure yet, AMD64's need to beat the current high end p4's first.

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    I thought Prescot was due to be well and truly out in Q1 2004?

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