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    Component Check & Questions

    Hey Guys,
    I'm about ready to order the components for my new PC. However, there are still one or two things I'm a bit unsure of, and would appreciate it if any of you could give advice on which component to go for under the following headings, or indeed, if there are any components which surpass them for the same general price. The same also applies for better suppliers of the same component, who may give better service or prices.

    Processor
    £151.52 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
    £182.00 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
    £252.57 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600


    RAM
    £147.63 - 2x1Gb Corsair TwinX XMS2: DDR2 PC6400 800mhz, 240 Pin: CAS 5-5-5-12
    £152.69 - GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 800MHz CAS 4-4-4-12


    Motherboard
    £147.92 - Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi
    £133.22 - Asus P5N32SLI-SE Deluxe


    Graphics Card
    £247.91 - Sapphire X1900XT
    £215.01 - XFX GeForce 7900GT Extreme
    £209.15 - GeCube Radeon X1800XT


    Hard Drive
    £45.00 - Samsung SP2004C SpinPoint P120
    £53.92 - Hitachi 0A32012 Deskstar T7K250


    PSU
    £65.67 - Tagan EasyCon TG530-U15 530w


    Case
    £145.69 (Last Confirmed Price) - Coolermaster Stacker 830


    Also, a couple of questions:

    1) I have never fitted a brand new processor/heatsink before, and was wondering: Do retail processors come with thermal paste, and is the same true for OEM package?

    2) If I were to take the OEM route with the Core 2 processor, which heatsink and fan would you recommend I use for maximum cooling. Space is not particulary a problem considering the case I have chosen, so it can be as large/powerful as the motherboard supports.
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    • alcor's system
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    Recently whipped my shiny new E6600 out of the box and yes there is thermal paste on the stock cooler.

    I dont know how good the paste is however, and if it is worth replacing. Probably not worth it due to voiding the warranty.

    I dont think the OEM version comes with a cooler, therfore no paste.

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    Processor
    £151.52 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
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    £252.57 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600

    RAM
    £152.69 - GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 800MHz CAS 4-4-4-12

    Motherboard
    £147.92 - Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi

    Graphics Card
    £247.91 - Sapphire X1900XT

    Hard Drive
    £45.00 - Samsung SP2004C SpinPoint P120

    Case
    £145.69 (Last Confirmed Price) - Coolermaster Stacker 830

    PSU
    £52.82 - 580W HiperPower HPU-4M580 Black SLi Ready Modular 20 + 24Pins P8 Ready ATX2.2/BTX

    1.) Retail CPUs come with heatsink and fan, as well as thermal paste. OEMs come with just the CPU.
    2.) Definitely get the Arctic Cooling 7 Pro, ace heatsink!

    Hope this helps!
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    Thanks a lot for the replies so far guys.

    I haven't much experience with PSUs, though I have heard good things about Tagan in the past. What are these Hiper ones like? Also, (aside from the slightly better wattage), in what ways is the one that you suggested ExceededGoku better than the Tagan?

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    im using a hiper type r (older model) and i have had no problems with it at all and it is nice and quiet.
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    well the main things to look for in a psu are quietness, reliability, efficiency and maybe cable management. The Hiper is good at all of these and isn't too expensive so definitely reccomended.
    I would personally look at one of the new 965P chipset motherboards, but I guess if crossfire is what you're looking to achieve, then go with the one you've chosen.
    The hitachi hard drive is top rated in custom pc at the mo, so thats the one i'd go for.
    ALso, you sure on the case? that stacker is pretty damn big, you need that much space? That new coolermaster case reviewed on hexus today seems pretty good to me, otherwise i'd get an antec p180.

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    and as chazt said above about what you are looking for in a PSU the hiper covers them all and then some. But IMO nothing quite matches the enermax for everything . Don't get a P180 they have poor thermal performance... trust me
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    sorry to namecheck custom pc once more but they did a comprehensive roundup of cases a few issues back, and using a thermal imaging camera the p180 came out on top, giving great cooling to all components. I've got one myself, and the temps are fantastic, way better than my old coolermaster case

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    Thanks again for the replies guys.

    I'm quite sure of the Stacker 830, so I'm afraid I won't be getting the P180, though it does look like a very good case.

    However, I am a little undecided about the PSU. Aren't Tagan quite stable etc? Would you say it is better than the Tagan I listed, aside from the extra wattage, as I was led to believe the Tagan had the qualities which you say the Hiper has too.

    Also, another thing....

    I'm in the market for a 19"/20" CRT monitor, which support 1600x1200 or above (so efectively, UXGA or QXGA). I can't afford an LCD of comparable resolution, but there seems to be a rather small selection on most online retailers. Can anyone recommend to me the best CRT to go for, and indeed, somewhere reliable which stocks it.

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    I'm in the market for a 19"/20" CRT monitor, which support 1600x1200 or above (so efectively, UXGA or QXGA). I can't afford an LCD of comparable resolution, but there seems to be a rather small selection on most online retailers. Can anyone recommend to me the best CRT to go for, and indeed, somewhere reliable which stocks it.
    Ebay, got a 21" Dell Trinitron (its a sony really) off there about 4 years ago for £120 inc postage. Does 1600x1200@85hz. and they cost way less than that now... bargain
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    Thanks for the suggestion MadduckUK, but unfortunately I'm unable to order via eBay.

    Keep the suggestions coming though, for makes/models and places to purchase.

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    Could anybody tell me why the Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi seems to surpass the Asus P5N32SLI-SE Deluxe in most people's opinion? The specifications seem to be quite good; is there some underlying problem which makes them bad?

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    Doesn't the P5NSLI-SE use a different chipest to the P5W DH, which means that support for the Core 2 Duo processors is lower. Also, if you are looking for a graphics card, OcUK are selling the HIS IceQ3 version of the X1900XT for £225. I ordered mine (when the price was still £240, but that's what impatience gets you).

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    Myself i would get:

    E6300 Save those pennies!
    Geil or corsair... whatever takes your fancy
    Gigabyte DS3/DS4. Wont touch another ASUS product again myself, this current board is dire on a whole new level.
    X1900XT
    Either HDD, hitachi for performance while still being fairly quiet, samsung for extreme silence.
    Tagan PSU. Never been a fan of this hiper stuff myself.

    I would NOT get that case though, but i suppose its a personal thing. Gimme a nice Lian Li anyday

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    I would get the E6400 IMO as it has a higher multipler and clock and is only £30 more than the E6300, the differances in price from there for the E6600, E6700 etc isent worth it, especially with quad core coming out in december.

    I had quite a lot of trouble deciding between the Stacker 830 case and the Akasa Eclipse, both are excellent cases and I like the fact that you can fit 9 fans into the stacker but Im gonna get the Akasa Eclipse as its cheaper(half the price of the stacker), better quality construction and lighter, also the case acts as a huge heatsink conducting heat out of the case. However the stacker 830 is better looking and has huge cooling potential if you fit it with 9 fans, although if you could fit 9 fans into the Akasa eclipse it would cool better.

    lol my Antec P182 OWNS NOW, ROFL AKASA ELCIPSE WAS CRAP
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