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    1st build ready to go! "Can you think of anything else"?

    Can you ps advise me if i need to add anything else to this 1st build project ?
    All thats needed to go is the Ram of which i may get 2x 1 GB Corsair value select 3200? (What do you think ) Re HD: I was going to take out 1 of my Maxtor Dmax 200GB (ATA) and use just the 1 But as i do a lot of photo/video editing [psp] do you think it better to have maybe a 40GB Sata and put the Dmax as a 2nd HD (would it really make that much difference in performance ) Lastly i was looking to buy a Temp/Voltage monitor that fits into the Drive cmprtmnt with maybe usb Mem card inputs (Any ideas here) Thats about it unless you can think of more to add

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    Nec 3500a CD/DVD/RW [taken out of old pc]
    Thermaltake soprano [includes 2 80mm Fans] (Are these good/quiet enough)

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    Buying a 40GB SATA makes no sense. No noticible preformace difference and a much higher cost per GB than say a ~200GB HD. Also investing money in a fairly expensive chip from the last generation (939 vs AM2) might not be the best. The memory seems like a good choice, for almost any I would reccomend 2X1 or 2X512 or value memory from a reputible brand. As for the fans you can always change them later. Personally I find the CPU and GPU fans drown out noise. Finally have fun with the build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabgeek
    Can you ps advise me if i need to add anything else to this 1st build project ?
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    how bout a decent heatsink? keeping your CPu cool extends it's life...

    and how bout soem samsungs? there liek 50 quid for 250gb :O

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    Thanks guys!!

    Re HD; Yes makes sense buying a Bigger capacity but what about the Sata vs ATA difference is it that noticeable As for the 939 cpu i was thinking of conroe but as i already had the Asrock mobo and the GPU from xmas it didnt make sense to splash out more cash!

    Re PC use; I use it for editing photo & Video and sometimes play games (1 a week)

    Re Heatsink; I have the retail CPU as i dont OC but would consider getting longer life on CPU,any ideas which one
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    If you aren't overclocking then I would stick with the retail cooler. A more powerful one will not extend the life of the cpu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeria
    If you aren't overclocking then I would stick with the retail cooler. A more powerful one will not extend the life of the cpu.
    Oh Retail it is then

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    I have a thermaltake soprano sitting empty next to me. the fans are good enough, not the quietest, but not the loudest either.

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    OK, so starting with the first question (S)ATA, for preformance the differnce in about 0, the advantage is that SATA has much smaller cables and is thus better for airflow. Also newer motherboards only have 1 PATA channel which you need for a CD drive (mixing CD and HD on one channel slows down the HD to the CDs transfer rate!). Since there isn't really any price difference I'd just go with the SATA assuming you have a free SATA port. For the heatsink remeber that the warrenty need the stock fan, that said I regret not just having gotten a quieter cooler and put it on my CPU when I built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awm
    OK, so starting with the first question (S)ATA, for preformance the differnce in about 0, the advantage is that SATA has much smaller cables and is thus better for airflow. Also newer motherboards only have 1 PATA channel which you need for a CD drive (mixing CD and HD on one channel slows down the HD to the CDs transfer rate!). Since there isn't really any price difference I'd just go with the SATA assuming you have a free SATA port. For the heatsink remeber that the warrenty need the stock fan, that said I regret not just having gotten a quieter cooler and put it on my CPU when I built.

    Not quite true, Sata has a performance benefit when the hard disk is reading from the cache, due to the higher bandwidth available. Granted, however, this makes a negligable difference. As you rightly say, the other advantage is the cables, much easier to route round the case, and, therefore, much tidier, and as a result, better airflow

    With regards to the graphics card, as long as you keep the stock fan incase you should ever need to RMA it, I have never had a problem

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabgeek
    Oh Retail it is then

    Sometimes the aim of an aftermarket cooler is not to extend the lifespan of the chip (voltage has a much greater effect on this), but to reduce the noise level required to cool it. With the exception of the fx-55 heatpipe coolers, the AMD stock hsf are ok, but not the best. An aftermarket cooler is always a good idea unless noise doesnt bother you. Me, personally, I like my peace & quiet

    I would, however, still get the retail CPU, because of the longer warrenty available. Although I don't see myself using a CPU for the full 3 years, 1 Year doesnt seem long enough

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    He'll get the FX-55 style heatpipe cooler with a 4800+ anyway. Very good temps and pretty quiet.

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    about 0 ~= negligable difference.

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    I would personally consider upgrading the graphics card to fully benefit what todays games offer.
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    Just checked board specs (Below) and it To tell you the truth i would rather put a Ide as a primary HD with another Ide as slave as i would rather not mess about with the Sata drivers floppy drive thing as i did not plan to inc a floppy in it. So if i put 2 Pata HDs is this the setup:
    Ide 1= (Primary) Samsung 200GB HD + (slave) Nec 3500 DVD/RW
    Ide 2= (primary) Maxtor Dmax 10 Or shall i have the Nec as the primary 2 and the Maxtor as the Slave 1

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    DO NOT put a DVD drive on a channel with a HD. The will go to the lowest speed: 33 Mb/s I believe. As for SATA I have an ancient floppy drive, from a 10 yr old dell, I use to install drivers. You can just open your side panel and hook up the floppy for 15 mins while you install.

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