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    Quote Originally Posted by cotswoldcs View Post
    He currently has an Iiyama 19" CRT (454) - a top end (at the time) CRT. I understand that colour reproduction (which is very important) is very good and am concerned about him making the move to TFT. However, this seems the only logical step so I am looking for a decent 19" TFT.
    I replaced a Iiyama 19" VisionMaster 454 Pro with a Viewsonic VP2030b and was concerned that the LCD would disappoint, but is is way better than the CRT as far as I am concerned - and no geometry problems. It swivels for landscap / portrait display and has good colour calibration software and the ability to instantly switch between saved profiles.

    I don't think a 19" LCD will cut it though at 1280 * 1024 - your dad will need better resolution than that - 1600 * 1200 (my VP2030) is now very affordable - it has come down over a ton since I bought mine a few months ago. Check out what resolution does he run the Iiyama at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtheAv8r View Post
    I replaced a Iiyama 19" VisionMaster 454 Pro with a Viewsonic VP2030b and was concerned that the LCD would disappoint, but is is way better than the CRT as far as I am concerned - and no geometry problems. It swivels for landscap / portrait display and has good colour calibration software and the ability to instantly switch between saved profiles.

    I don't think a 19" LCD will cut it though at 1280 * 1024 - your dad will need better resolution than that - 1600 * 1200 (my VP2030) is now very affordable - it has come down over a ton since I bought mine a few months ago. Check out what resolution does he run the Iiyama at.

    Good question but here's the BIG problem. Dad currently runs his 19" CRT at 1152 x 864 !!! His reason for doing so is that his eyesight isn't so good and higher resolutions mean that text, icons etc are really small. I'm concerned that 1600 x 1200 will make him squint to read comfortably. Great for photos but he does do other stuff as well! If he can cope then obviously a high resolution would be GREAT!

    As I also mentioned I'm definately going for a widescreen TFT if we were to replace the CRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarslam View Post
    i do web gfx work and fins tfts do have worse colour reproduction,

    colours can vary from angle too.

    i normally use a 17" dell tft

    the dell widescreens are better i used a 2007fpw but it wasnt high enough so didnt allow for much full image zoom without cutting top and bottom off the pic.
    Yeah but what aspect ratio were the photos you were editing. His Canon 5D produces photos with a 1.5 ratio (4368 x 2912). Surely a widescreen panel would make editing these photos much easier?

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    When you're using photoshop with a big widescreen I find it gives a nice square work area, with all tools off the side. Unless you remember all the keyboard shortcuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by cotswoldcs View Post
    Yeah but what aspect ratio were the photos you were editing. His Canon 5D produces photos with a 1.5 ratio (4368 x 2912). Surely a widescreen panel would make editing these photos much easier?
    It depends on how he crops . But yes, obviously a widescreen monitor would be closer to the classic 3:2 ratio of 35mm, which most decent cameras still respect.

    The one thing that's missing in this whole discussion is talk about calibration. If your Dad wants predictable results you should really invest in a decent calibrator as well. That can raise the performance of the lower-end monitors a lot. The Spyder Pro comes well recommended. There are cheaper options, but I've read some bad reviews of them and are best avoided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cotswoldcs View Post
    Thanks everyone for your comments.

    OK for a start when I said "best" I had no idea that a professional TFT would cost £1-2,000 !!!!
    Pretty cheap compared to cameras and lenses though. A canon 5D costs the better part of £2000 and lenses can easily add the same again. Photography is not for the short of cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
    Pretty cheap compared to cameras and lenses though. A canon 5D costs the better part of £2000 and lenses can easily add the same again. Photography is not for the short of cash.

    Too true Butcher, I only wish it were a bottomless pit. Do you know of a way of printing money??? It would certainly make the decision making easier

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    The 24" Dell generally has had some great reviews. It really did look amazing until I read this....

    Quote from TomsHardware Guide

    "But for the average user, the colours are a little too bright for photo retouching. Frankly that's regrettable. For office applications, the resolution is a plus but the brightness is too high. "


    That sounds dissapointing as I trust THG's opinions.

    It is expensive and so whilst I haven't decided I think my shortlist is now:

    Dell UltraSharp 2007WFP 20.1" Widescreen (£302.27)
    Viewsonic VX2025wm 20" Widescreen (£284.33)
    Samsung SyncMaster 215TW (£400+del)


    The 20" Dell is winning my vote at present but that seems to change every hour or so!!!

    HELP ME DECIDE - THIS IS UNBEARABLE!!!!

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    The toms hardware guide is talking about the older monitor. 2405 is the 05 series model and 2407 the newer version.

    Nothing wrong with the 20" Dell, you could even get two for the same price of the 24inch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cotswoldcs View Post
    Too true Butcher, I only wish it were a bottomless pit. Do you know of a way of printing money??? It would certainly make the decision making easier
    I wish, could use a new lens or two myself.

    I have the 2405FPW and it is on the bright side, also I'm not sure it really has the gamut for serious photo work. That said, it's not a bad monitor, it depends on how much he wants a TFT and how good or bad his CRT is (CRTs have an annoying habit of losing contrast with age).
    Last edited by Butcher; 14-09-2006 at 04:52 PM.

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    I wouldn't worry about brightness, the Dell is very bright when taken out of the box but that's easily fixed with the right settings. The important things are uniformity, gamut and colour accuracy.

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    If you're considering mainstream TFT's such as the Dell 2407 and the VX2025 can I put in a suggestion for the NEC 20WGX2 ? I think the glossy screen coating gives it a more vibrant image than it's competitors. I haven't yet seen the Dell but I can recommend the NEC over the other ones you mention.

    I know I've maybe prattled on about this screen in other threads but it's just that good ! I've used a few high end (mainly consumer) displays at work and home and I've not seen anything to touch it in a flat panel at the price.

    You'd definitely need to hire or buy a Spyder (or similar) if it's for serious photo editing though, as colours aren't quite as natural as they should be. Out of the box they're as good as any similarly priced competitor I've seen, but with calibration it's a very impressive monitor indeed.

    That said, for ultimate colour accuracy with less faffing about, CRT could still be your best bet. Not quite as stylish or exciting but it does the job and does it well.

    It's a nightmare trying to choose one of these screens at the mo, best of luck to you

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    Thanks for your replies and suggestions.

    I'll take a look at the NEC but I haven't ruled out any of the others yet.

    I think the 20" Dell is my favourite at the moment.

    Keep your thoughts coming.

    Are there any photographers reading this. Can you tell me what monitor you currently use and what you'd consider if you were to buy. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cotswoldcs View Post
    Good question but here's the BIG problem. Dad currently runs his 19" CRT at 1152 x 864 !!! His reason for doing so is that his eyesight isn't so good and higher resolutions mean that text, icons etc are really small. I'm concerned that 1600 x 1200 will make him squint to read comfortably. Great for photos but he does do other stuff as well! If he can cope then obviously a high resolution would be GREAT!

    As I also mentioned I'm definately going for a widescreen TFT if we were to replace the CRT.
    I ran my Iiyama mainly at 1280 * 1024 for the same reason, but for photography I raised it to 1600 * 1200 - but for most other stuff the text was too small for me to read and icons too small to clearly see (in my mid 50s...).

    I had the same concern - but I have no problem with the 1600 * 1200 on the ViewSonic VP2030 all text (even 8 pt in word) is clear and easily readable. Of course if you got the ViewSonic VP2130 things would be a bit bigger (as with 17" and 19" LCDs - same resolution, but the 19" is easier to read 'cos the display is slightly bigger).
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    why go for a tft? if his eyesight is a bit iffy (not sure why he's a photographer) i'd look at getting a 24" or similar CRT with good colour setup. why not look for something 2nd hand to save a bit of cash?

    as has been said, tfts aren't up to crts for overall quality
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    I also would recomend the NEC screens I have the 20" GX2 model as previously mentioned in this thread, if money is no option then I would say go for the Eizo range tho

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