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    Maxtor drive causing havoc, any ideas?

    Right, heres a quick history of the drive.
    Maxtor 250gb diamondmax10 sata 16meg cache, bought new about ayear ago, first went into an xp system as the main drive for storage, boot, everything. Around 2 months ago, i bought a raptor, so i installed windows on the raptor and formatted the Maxtor.

    Yesterday, i put the empty maxtor into a new system with a view to running Vista rc1. now heres the problem..

    In either pc, with only the maxtor connected, if i set the bios to boot from cd, i either get a reboot, or the "ntldr is missing" error. its as if the maxtor is overriding the bios and not letting the cd/dvd drive boot. i have tried xp sp2 disc, vista rc1, the newer vista, 64 bit vista rc1, and also the newer one, all of these on different media, just to rule that out, different sata cables, different bioses.

    so its got to be the maxtor, that, im pretty sure about, but i cant find anything wrong with it. it passes the windows diagnostics, it formats and partitions fine within windows xp, runs quick enough, isnt any more noisy than normal.

    i have downloaded the maxtor diagnostics, but i cant run them, because it wont boot from cd, and ironically, my floppy drive died the other day.


    does anyone have any ideas how i can fix this without a hammer?

    thanks

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    In either pc, with only the maxtor connected, if i set the bios to boot from cd, i either get a reboot
    only the maxtor connected? i presume you mean the only harddrive connected is the maxtor?
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    yes, thanks for the input

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    If the maxtor is IDE and of course the Raptor is SATA, most motherboards will try and boot from the primary IDE drive. Which of course doesn't have windows on it. Causing the Ntdlr message.

    I have the opposite problem, if I want to remove my old PATA drive windows wont boot, because it put the ntdlr on there and everything on my raptors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    good thinking, but unfortunately, both of these motherboards are intel 965 chipsets with the jmicron sata/ide controller on them, which i think is what is causing the trouble now. cheers though

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    If the maxtor is IDE and of course the Raptor is SATA, most motherboards will try and boot from the primary IDE drive. Which of course doesn't have windows on it. Causing the Ntdlr message.

    I have the opposite problem, if I want to remove my old PATA drive windows wont boot, because it put the ntdlr on there and everything on my raptors
    tha maxtor is sata mate. im even unable to boot from the windows sp2 cd that i originally set up the main pc with.

    both of the systems have the same motherboard with the same bios (tried 3 previous ones on each as well).

    both of the systems have NEC dvd drives (a 4551 on the main pc and 4570 on htpc)

    i have used 3 different kinds of ram in each, so i can rule that out.

    3 different psu's so i can rule that out.

    different sata cables, different ide cables for the dvd drives as well.




    its not often that i cant mend something, but i really am stumped

    if i just put the raptor back in with no other hard drives, in the main pc (the one that was working to begin with), it boots to windows fine. but if i put in the windows sp2 cd and change the boot order to the nec drive, i get a black screen.

    its only a couple of weeks since i set this raptor up and it installed fine then...so, what has changed?, the bios has changed, but ive tried the older bioses and the same thing happens.

    bugger.

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    It's a long shot, but try totally wiping the maxtor again. I've had a few times when it didn't 'take'. Make sure you get the boot sector etc.

    Does your motherboard allow you to set which hard drive boots? Seems obvious to me, but I've seen people miss easier things.

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    yeah, you just set it in the bios, the boot order etc. i was going to run boot n nuke but the floppy drive wouldnt work either, ive got another floppy drive coming tomorrow just in case. bloody thing.

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    You really need to get maxblast or somthing like that and zero the drive. I takes a while, but its solved similar problems for me when formatting wasnt working.

    Try unplugging the drive, booting from the CD and then plugging in the maxtor as its booting from the CD. You should be fine plugging in a sata drive while the pc is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    I have the opposite problem, if I want to remove my old PATA drive windows wont boot, because it put the ntdlr on there and everything on my raptors
    You should always unplug all your IDE drives when instyalling windows on a sata drive, that way it has to put the ntldr on the right sata drive. Its a pain but only takes a minute.

    Either that or just move to a sata only PC!

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    What motherboard are you using? Possibilities could include having the bios set to use the drive in the wrong mode, does it offer ide, sata, enhanced or both for instance.

    I agree with the absolute need for the maxblast floppy. I've had similar problems with exactly the same drive on its own, but I now use two of them in a raid array with no trouble at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_kinton View Post
    You should always unplug all your IDE drives when instyalling windows on a sata drive, that way it has to put the ntldr on the right sata drive. Its a pain but only takes a minute.

    Either that or just move to a sata only PC!
    Yeah I know that now

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_kinton View Post
    You really need to get maxblast or somthing like that and zero the drive. I takes a while, but its solved similar problems for me when formatting wasnt working.

    Try unplugging the drive, booting from the CD and then plugging in the maxtor as its booting from the CD. You should be fine plugging in a sata drive while the pc is on.
    I grabbed maxblast the other day, but all that does is repartition and format the drive, which it does no problem. as i said, i cant use the floppy drive, because, either the floppy drive has died (coincidentally), or the controller is playing up, on both boards. i have a new floppy drive coming today.

    Quote Originally Posted by TamDigital View Post
    What motherboard are you using? Possibilities could include having the bios set to use the drive in the wrong mode, does it offer ide, sata, enhanced or both for instance.

    I agree with the absolute need for the maxblast floppy. I've had similar problems with exactly the same drive on its own, but I now use two of them in a raid array with no trouble at all.
    motherboard is the asus p5b deluxe in both of them. hopefully, when this new floppy drive gets here, ill be able to run some utils to see what is up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clunk View Post
    I want that one
    Yeah but no, but yeah, but no, but ...

    My maxblast does more, removes DDO, zeros, write MBR, etc, etc.

    Its true about unpluigging all IDEs before installing the SATA with an OS. Then plugging the IDEs back in after and setting boot order with the SATA first worked for me too.
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    the dvd drive and the maxtor are shown in the bios, and they work in windows (the maxtor as a storage drive), but i cant boot from the dvd now on either pc, with or without the maxtor attatched, and its only since it has been playing up that this has happened. weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clunk View Post
    the dvd drive and the maxtor are shown in the bios, and they work in windows (the maxtor as a storage drive), but i cant boot from the dvd now on either pc, with or without the maxtor attatched, and its only since it has been playing up that this has happened. weird.

    Mate, your getting the *exact* same problem im having with a DM10 200gb. On an intel 945 !
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