Where Did all the AMD X2 AM2 Chips go?

[malice19]

I've looked every where and can not find any where that has the 5000Ghz Dual Core chip in stock, apart from the sites that are still selling them over £300

I've ordered mine from Novatech for £220, but have to wait till back in stock and they can not give me a date

Is there a mass shortage or some thing?

[Indi75]

I've noticed this too.

I decided on a Conroe in the end. I'm not paying the extra £100 for an AMD chip that's not competitive on price or performance.

The X2 44,46 & 4800's are all in short supply too.

[Agent]

....has the 5000Ghz Dual Core chip in stock

I want one

This was recently covered in a news story on the main site
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6890

[Funkstar]

I've looked every where and can not find any where that has the 5000Ghz Dual Core chip in stock

neat. that would be the worlds fastest CPU then

Is there a mass shortage or some thing?

see here:
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=87079

and here:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6890

[malice19]

Thanks 4 all posts,

It looks a bit worrying that some people made orders for the 5000Ghz chip months ago and still not got it ; (

Not sure what to do now?

[Speedo]

How about a nice Core2Duo chip and a reasonably priced motherboard?

[shaithis]

neat. that would be the worlds fastest CPU then

Not even close

[malice19]

How about a nice Core2Duo chip and a reasonably priced motherboard?

Humm bit late because i just got my new AM2 shuttle this morning, and it looks like it will be gathering alot of dust before it even see the AM2 chip

Thing was i didn't know that there was such a problem of shortage with the AM2 chip as novatech said as soon as you order it they will order it and it will take about 3 days, what a load of BS

[sawyen]

ok... i cant take it anymore, there are no 5000Ghz AMD chips now.. perhaps in the next 10 years, but not now..

There are only 5000+ rating chips which run 2.6Ghz, 4600+ which runs 2.4Ghz and the 4200+ that runs 2.2Ghz...

ok... i'll go back to my lab now..

[Smokey21]

ok... i cant take it anymore, there are no 5000Ghz AMD chips now.. perhaps in the next 10 years, but not now..

Not likely. 100 years maybe.

If your really finding it hard to get one, might be worth getting a Conroe, as i assume it's a whole system upgrade, the AM2 gets spanked by every Core 2.

[malice19]

ok... i cant take it anymore, there are no 5000Ghz AMD chips now.. perhaps in the next 10 years, but not now..

There are only 5000+ rating chips which run 2.6Ghz, 4600+ which runs 2.4Ghz and the 4200+ that runs 2.2Ghz...

ok... i'll go back to my lab now..

LOL yeah u know what i mean, but still cant get them.

[sawyen]

Not likely. 100 years maybe.

If your really finding it hard to get one, might be worth getting a Conroe, as i assume it's a whole system upgrade, the AM2 gets spanked by every Core 2.

Well, I know its not all that likely, but if we consider a vague approximation using a correlated clockspeed-transistor Moore's Law, and that there are companies that still follow non-commercial clockspeed ramp (i.e. IBM) using cryogenic cooling..

thus, clockspeed is predicted to ramp x2 every research year, so considering research years are spaced in 3 years with 1 year recollection, we should in theory see speeds in excess of 5000Ghz within 15 years, where I have already taken account with 3 turns in research time.

But that must come with consideration that the limit will only hold true if,
1. The basic platform which variables are increased contains increment space that are of infinite or close to infinite redundancy.
2. The technology have defined limits which in essence are of equal or larger than the target variable platform.
3. Simple terms... Unlimited budget..

The last 3 are not really Moore's Law but basic research methodology..

[DanceswithUnix]

Ooh, I like these number games...

I got the impression (from an IEEE article some time back) that getting a performance increase with reduction in transistor size was getting way harder. It looks like we can expect 20% improvement out of the AMD shrink to 65nm, and Moore's law says they should shrink every 18 months.

At 20% every 18 months, I make that 60 years based on pure clock speed increases.

Every time they double the number of cores that should knock 18months off that, but even if they double the number of cores at every shrink that is still 30 years. Might still be alive to see that

Hmm, do you think an X1048576 5000000+ CPU could run Oblivion OK?

[sawyen]

Ooh, I like these number games...

I got the impression (from an IEEE article some time back) that getting a performance increase with reduction in transistor size was getting way harder. It looks like we can expect 20% improvement out of the AMD shrink to 65nm, and Moore's law says they should shrink every 18 months.

At 20% every 18 months, I make that 60 years based on pure clock speed increases.

Every time they double the number of cores that should knock 18months off that, but even if they double the number of cores at every shrink that is still 30 years. Might still be alive to see that

Hmm, do you think an X1048576 5000000+ CPU could run Oblivion OK?

Well, we've all fell for the MHz Myth before, so even if it hits 5000Ghz, it'll woudnt mean 1000 fold increase in performance compared to 5Ghz available now. But I believe should the research be viable under considerate funding, 5000Ghz isnt that far away, even if performance may not reflect what has been extrapolated since the introduction into the MHz century..

[Smokey21]

LOL you 2 are muppets. You really think your ever going to get a 5000ghz chip? We have already hit a wall today at 4Ghz under normal conditions, Intel are going to the AMD route, more efficient, etc.

[sawyen]

LOL you 2 are muppets. You really think your ever going to get a 5000ghz chip? We have already hit a wall today at 4Ghz under normal conditions, Intel are going to the AMD route, more efficient, etc.

Like I said, non-commercial chips under non-commercial conditions. .. and 5000Ghz isnt Muppets at all, its a viable research (though not my field exactly).. At least the limits of current technology can actually be proven rather than halted due to commercial and economic beliefs..

.. Thats the difference between research and your usual household product..