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    Watercoooling newbie help

    Hello all, looking for some watercooling advice.

    I bought a 2nd hand LianLi V1000 modded case 2 top holes, radiator with 120mm fans, and an Eheim 1048 pump.

    I dont have any pipes or fittings or blocks.

    I need to know what I need to get this running. I am completely new to this so any help on types of hoses, water, tools, blocks (should I get VGA, CPU & Northbridge ?), where to buy etc. would be a great help, along with recommendations to fasten the pump to the case.

    I also saw a device for automatically turning on the pump when the PC is powered on. Is this a good idea, anyone using this ? Got a link ?

    Am running Socket 754 A64, KV8 SE Deluxe and 6800LE gfx. Will be upgrading to E6300 / 7900GS in the new year so would like something I can carry over to that build.

    Cheers.

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    Are you sure that the radiator will fit in the top when the motherboard is in? if it does fit, itll be covering part of the board.

    You need to find out what size barbs the rad and pump have, and then go from there.

    How much do you have to spend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clunk View Post
    Are you sure that the radiator will fit in the top when the motherboard is in? if it does fit, itll be covering part of the board.
    Yes and yes it does.

    You need to find out what size barbs the rad and pump have, and then go from there.
    Using my ruler 10" internal diameter, 12mm external

    How much do you have to spend?
    As little as possible until I'm sure it's the way I want to go. Should I just do CPU 1st to give it a go ?

    Thanks.

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    You'll need a reservoir, hose, hose clamps, anti-fungal/water wetter additive (like Zerex), purified water (can get this from a chemist) and a CPU water block. The eheim 1048 looks like it has screw holes in it's mounting plate - you can just screw it to the bottom of your case.

    I'd start out with just a CPU block at first. VGA blocks can be more tricky to install and northbridge blocks can be even worse. Some well-regarded blocks are the ones by Danger Den, Asetek or Swiftech (here).

    The coolercases site above has a good selection of the bits you'll need. Is your pump mains powered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinners View Post
    Using my ruler 10" internal diameter, 12mm external
    Tardis barbs!

    so you need a block and tubing with 3/8 fittings. you can use a reservoir like chaleski said, but if you want to do it cheaply, you can buy a 3/8 t-piece and make a t-line. i would definately advise you to go the t-line route in that case because of the lack of space.

    over-clock.co.uk have a good range of stuff and they are helpful if you get stuck.

    if you cant get distilled water, you can use deionised water, available from tescos (or any other world dominating supermarket chain), but make sure you get some zerex from over-clock, its only about 3 quid a bottle and you only need a splash of it (5%), itll stop any galvanic corrosion and any nasties forming.

    Use metal jubilee clips, especially as it is your first build and dont be scared of tightening them up tight.

    if the rad is second hand, get some white vinegar while you are in tescos getting your deionised water and fill the rad with it, shake it all about for a bit, then leave it to soak for a while and then flush with plenty of water...if you have a hose pipe, you can attatch it to the rad and flush it through. This will stop any gunk that is in the rad from clogging your new block.

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    Thanks.

    Have a reservoir, just perspex fits in front in place of 2 drive bays. In fact it's pretty similar to this one.

    Pump is mains powered but I think it was connected to a relay card before as it's got no plug on it. I would prefer a solution where I didnt have to turn it on and off manually.
    Last edited by tinners; 12-10-2006 at 09:12 PM.

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    i havent messed around with mains pumps to be honest, so cant help you there.

    Have a look at over-clock forums, they have plenty of info there.

    I think youll struggle with a res like that in the v1000 case. i had one in mine for a while and it was a right pain to get anything in or out of the case, and itll be even worse for you as the rad is covering the board as well.

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      • Motherboard:
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      • Memory:
      • OCZ - 2Gb + Corsair TwinX 2Gb
      • Storage:
      • Raptor X 150Gb + 2TB Tranquil Windows Home Server
      • Graphics card(s):
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      • PSU:
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      • Case:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clunk View Post
    I think youll struggle with a res like that in the v1000 case. i had one in mine for a while and it was a right pain to get anything in or out of the case, and itll be even worse for you as the rad is covering the board as well.
    What's the alternative ? Is a TLine where the water is "static" in the pipes and just gets topped up ?

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    this should give you an idea, but in your case, you can have the actual t-part in the bottom section, hidden away. ill see if i can find any pics of my old setup.


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    Excellent, thanks. Need to do some reading up.

    It doesnt look that complicated TBH. Famous last words I'm sure.

    Looks like some blocks support multiple sockets. Is this better than a dedicated one for an individual socket type ?

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    This may be what you're looking for.

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    yeah, some do a few different sockets. i think the swiftech apogee will do a few different ones, as will the aquaxtreme mp-05 pro le, some of the dangerden ones seem to be one socket or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleski View Post
    This may be what you're looking for.
    nice. have emailed them to check.

    Final couple of questions

    if I get a block does it have the 3/8" barbs also ? If not how do I fit the hose to it?

    Is this a half decent block ? Looks like it supports multiple sockets, doesnt cost a bomb and from Scan is free delivery.
    Last edited by tinners; 12-10-2006 at 10:46 PM.

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