Higher DDR Speeds

[Stringent]

I see now we can get PC4000 (500mhz) and PC4200 (533mhz) DDR beginning to find their way onto the shelves. For all you overclocking freaks, should be a nice boost to push our CPU's to the limit!

Oh its Geil DDR I saw, how do they measure up between the likes of TwinMOS and Corsair XMS?

[Big RICHARD]

I've heard Geil is the best for memory (if you're prepared to fork out for it)

[TiG]

Kingston have also got some of these speeds out, Geil is generally more common on the american market, Twinmos doesn't exist in the usa afaik.

I wouldn't expect you to get to 2-6-2-2 at those speeds, i think the PC4200 stuff rated at 2.5-7-4-4

TiG

[spikegifted]

Originally posted by Big RICHARD
I've heard Geil is the best for memory (if you're prepared to fork out for it)

I'm not sure about best - every maker says they're the best, but who really knows... But GEiL is one of the most expensive - which gives people the impression that they must be one of the best (you-get-what-you-pay-for type logic... )

[acidrainy]

Never even heard of them... are they tipically aimed for the server/high end market ?

[TiG]

No Acidrainy, they are generally an american company, they are well know out in the USA just like Twinmos is here. Its very good memory of the sort of market as Corsair is in.

TiG

[Stringent]

It seems to be less than Corsair in some shops. Nearly bought 1.0Gb of it ....

[Agent]

Ive used Geil and its very good memory
Very nice heat spreads aswell

[fondie]

Originally posted by TiG
Kingston have also got some of these speeds out, Geil is generally more common on the american market, Twinmos doesn't exist in the usa afaik.

I wouldn't expect you to get to 2-6-2-2 at those speeds, i think the PC4200 stuff rated at 2.5-7-4-4

TiG

i think atm a lot of it is rated at 3-8-4-4 even on intel platforms, sligtly lower clocks with tighter timings can perform similarly.

[BlackSheep]

how high have peeps got Corsair XMS3500 to run at?

[Swafe]

geil make good ram, just not as popular as corsair

[Trickle]

Originally posted by fondie
i think atm a lot of it is rated at 3-8-4-4 even on intel platforms, sligtly lower clocks with tighter timings can perform similarly.

Hold on, what do you mean "even on intel platforms"?

Its the Intel 865/875's that have the problem with memory timings. You will probably find that the ram will achieve much better than 3-8-4-4 and that this is only their default spd value due to the recent problems the ram manufacturers have been having with 875 boards.

[Donny John]

I'm using Geil Ultra atm, rock solid, recommended Dudes

http://pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/new-p...c3500-geil.asp at €69,00 (£48.00) it is expensive though

Heres the 500mhz:

http://pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/memor...ram-pc4000.asp

"Dual Channel optimised" Mmmm

Try the Special Offers page:

http://pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/special-offers.html

[fondie]

Originally posted by Trickle
Hold on, what do you mean "even on intel platforms"?

Its the Intel 865/875's that have the problem with memory timings. You will probably find that the ram will achieve much better than 3-8-4-4 and that this is only their default spd value due to the recent problems the ram manufacturers have been having with 875 boards.

Sorry, it was meant to read that even on intel platforms a slightly lower clock with tighter timings often performs better than a higher clock with slack timings, rather than that an intel platform had an effect on the timings.

I realise most high quality RAM is capable of out performing their SPD but i don't think that the manufacturers have slackened their SPD timings on these faster modules because of any problems with Canterwood boards just that not enough memory is there to mark at these speeds with lower latencies. The manufacturers like to give a little space, understandably, at to what their modules will run at and their rated speeds.

I'm not confident these DDR500 modules are worth it though, they seem to prefer high latency operation and running at lower latencies serously reduces their Mhz speed, where as some of the memory with tighter timings will lower clocks, like HyperX PC3500, will often be able to keep their low latency operation to higher speeds and therefore maybe a better choice.