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    What's the point of 2g ram at high prices.

    Well with vista and new games I suppose 2 gig is handy but:-
    If you're overclocking can you use 1g stick, and when prices come down get another gig stick.......or have I got it all wrong and you need a matched pair e.g. 2X512 or 2X1gig for best results.

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    With two sticks, you get the benefit of running your ram over 2 channels (dual channel). However, if your plan is to get 1gig now, and 1 gig later, I would suggest you go with 1 stick now - to up that to two later.

    This will result in you having a far more flexible return on your ram, come the time you wish to upgrade other components - in the further future.

    Personally, It has been many moons since I operated on 1 stick ('98 for about 2 months) so as to the performance advantage/disadvantage I could not inform you.


    I jumped from 512 to 2gig about 18 months back and absolutely love it to bits. A lot of games today pull over the 1gig marker and I can only assume they will soon be over the 2.

    If you have the cash, go for the two 1gig sticks. The ram that I have in my system was the best bang-for-buck I could find at the time. Weighing in at £165 for the pair.
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    2gig has been almost standard for gamers for a long time now. RAM prices almost doubled last year, it doesn't mean you need the RAM any less though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    2gig has been almost standard for gamers for a long time now. RAM prices almost doubled last year, it doesn't mean you need the RAM any less though.
    Indeed! The price of oil fluctuates less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    2gig has been almost standard for gamers for a long time now. RAM prices almost doubled last year, it doesn't mean you need the RAM any less though.
    erm well I thought the graphic card was taking the load off the computer.
    As for memory it seems there is the equivalent of OPEC and it wouldn't suprise me, if there was some price fixing somewhere........if different manufactures make their own ram independently how can the prices be similar i.e. they are all high. Yeah I know about supply and demand and it would be interesting to know what it cost to make a 1g stick, also tried to find out what the Chinese are paying..........erm anyone know Mandarin.

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    The graphics card does a lot, but lets take BF2 for example(pretty old game now), at medium settings and 1024x768 it uses 6-700meg RAM. at high settings and the same resolution it jumps to about 1.1gig and of course you still have windows and whatever else running. So you see you don't really need to be pushing the boundaries to need 2gig anymore. If like me you want to play the very newest games at 1600x1200 then 2gig is essential.

    and the memory equivalent of OPEC is the dramexchange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidrainy View Post
    With two sticks, you get the benefit of running your ram over 2 channels (dual channel). However, if your plan is to get 1gig now, and 1 gig later, I would suggest you go with 1 stick now - to up that to two later.

    This will result in you having a far more flexible return on your ram, come the time you wish to upgrade other components - in the further future.

    Personally, It has been many moons since I operated on 1 stick ('98 for about 2 months) so as to the performance advantage/disadvantage I could not inform you.


    I jumped from 512 to 2gig about 18 months back and absolutely love it to bits. A lot of games today pull over the 1gig marker and I can only assume they will soon be over the 2.

    If you have the cash, go for the two 1gig sticks. The ram that I have in my system was the best bang-for-buck I could find at the time. Weighing in at £165 for the pair.
    Well I'm in the middle of an upgrade, got the corsair psu, arctic freezer7, 250g sata and getting the P180 next week, but everything is on hold to sus out the new C2D chips and motherboards coming out and maybe I should have delayed my question, but I really like to know in advance of my options esp when overclocking. And as I'm not an everyday gamer maybe I can get away with 1g stick of ram if it doesn't cripple overclocking........... for the time being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    The graphics card does a lot, but lets take BF2 for example(pretty old game now), at medium settings and 1024x768 it uses 6-700meg RAM. at high settings and the same resolution it jumps to about 1.1gig and of course you still have windows and whatever else running. So you see you don't really need to be pushing the boundaries to need 2gig anymore. If like me you want to play the very newest games at 1600x1200 then 2gig is essential.

    and the memory equivalent of OPEC is the dramexchange.
    Interesting facts about graphics cards and memory, which I didn't know..... thanks

    So ram prices could be a fix then i.e manage supply to keep prices up. Ram prices are amazing when you consider you can get a CD burner for about £18.

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    Have a read through Choosing the Right Memory for Core 2 Duo Platform - Parts 1- 3:

    The only thing that u need to bear in mind that the chips used do change for example in part 3 (see conclusion) the Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400С4 wins with an outstanding Performance & £. I thought that's 4 me only to find when asking around that the memory chips used have changed giving....... U guessed it poorer performance at the same price.

    That's another reason why buying 1Gb now & 1gb later won't always work as you end up with different chips which may not run well together. Cheaper value ram in particular changes regularly with what's cheap & available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull View Post
    2gig has been almost standard for gamers for a long time now. RAM prices almost doubled last year, it doesn't mean you need the RAM any less though.
    I can remember when a 4Mb upgrade for an Apple Mac II cost £1200 (about 1988/9 when £1200 would be equivalent of £2500 today). compared to that today's £130 for 2Gb Quality PC5400 DDR667Value RAM and £250 for Top Quality 2Gb PC8500 does not seem so bad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supershanks View Post
    Have a read through [URL="http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/"]Choosing the Right Memory for Core 2 Duo Platform - Parts 1- 3: /URL]

    The only thing that u need to bear in mind that the chips used do change for example in part 3 (see conclusion) the Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400С4 wins with an outstanding Performance & £. I thought that's 4 me only to find when asking around that the memory chips used have changed giving....... U guessed it poorer performance at the same price.

    That's another reason why buying 1Gb now & 1gb later won't always work as you end up with different chips which may not run well together. Cheaper value ram in particular changes regularly with what's cheap & available.

    luck
    Well that's cleared that up in trying to do things on the cheap..............oh well ram cost what it cost when I get my Cpu etc, but did have twin 1gig ea 6400 dominator on my list as suggested here.

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    In fairness many excellent on line stores don't always carry a good stock of memory, I used Memory C Prices & stock are genarally a bit better than the likes of Tekheads or Oc_UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supershanks View Post
    In fairness many excellent on line stores don't always carry a good stock of memory, I used Memory C Prices & stock are genarally a bit better than the likes of Tekheads or Oc_UK.
    erm based in Ireland, well I thought everything was dearer there. My brother in law in Dublin, in the past, was always envious of the cheaper prices in the UK.

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    Yep but you compare the £ Memory i got Cellshock @ Memory C £ 269.06
    Cellshock @ OC_UK £281.99 btw the cellshock 6400 is also good.

    luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supershanks View Post
    Yep but you compare the £ Memory i got Cellshock @ Memory C £ 269.06
    Cellshock @ OC_UK £281.99 btw the cellshock 6400 is also good.

    luck
    So if the Euro devalues to the £, it becomes cheaper....erm this is getting complicated as isn't cellshock from Germany, well in theory it should be cheapest there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur2 View Post
    erm this is getting complicated as isn't cellshock from Germany, well in theory it should be cheapest there.
    Nah - in today's market of exporting anything and everything, the country of origin makes little difference (unless it was born under the stars and stripes it seems).

    What annoys me is threads where people suggest RAM is of poor value compared to the rest of components. Why should RAM be of any consequential price to that of other components? (this isn't really one of those threads, but does remind me of one not so long ago).

    IMHO, save for the PSU, RAM is the most important internal component. Not enough, and you're forever waiting on the PC starting up or sitting on the desktop watching the HDD LED lazily staying on while waiting on the page file to settle down (which never really happens).

    The prices are high at the moment, but we knew it was coming - there were reports all over the place suggesting the price of memory chips was going to rocket. RAM is well known for having volatile pricing.

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