Hay I get the notice 'CPU INIT' on the LCD poster thinggy on the back of the asus commando when I turn the switch on the psu. No fans spinning at all.:confused:
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Hay I get the notice 'CPU INIT' on the LCD poster thinggy on the back of the asus commando when I turn the switch on the psu. No fans spinning at all.:confused:
I would start with take out the ram and just try it with 1 stick, make sure its in properly and try different slots.
Re-seat the cpu.
Make sure theres no thermal compound on anything apart from the top of the cpu and the bottom of the heatsink.
Take the board out of the case and build it all up on a piece of cardboard, this will let you check that there arent any shorts within the case.
Borrow a stick of low spec ram (1.8/1.9v stuff and boot to the bios with it, change the ram voltage to 2.1 (or whatever it should be) and save and power off, fit the proper ram and fire up.
Well then cpu is in properly, the heatsink in connected properly
and there is no thermal compound lose on the mobo. Also when I opened the RAM I noticed that it had been opened before because the plastic packaging was broken, anyway you could tell trust me. OOO yes it's from ocuk:mrgreen:
its possibly a return they've sent out again. most probably without checking. your about to enter a world of "paying for shipping to them with no refund-pain"
I think I have, if this is true and it is faulty then I am better off going through g skill.:undecided
My bad I got it to work:lol: the heatsink wasen't fitted properly
thankyou o great clunk for telling me to put in on a flat bit :mrgreen: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Glad it's alive:woowoo:
must admit i always build "barebones" 1st - out the case minimum components. i find it makes trouble shooting much easier.
Excellent, no rma with the berks :)
dodged a bullet there!
?? what's berks:confused:Quote:
Excellent, no rma with the berks
OCUK berks :) (I wasnt going to mention them in case people became offended and called me an ocukist :D)
HaHa:)Quote:
OCUK berks (I wasnt going to mention them in case people became offended and called me an ocukist )
Hehe :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
Discourage people by all means, but I admit it does bug me when people say "AVOID AT ALL COSTS!" "DO NOT BUY FROM THERE" "SATAN WORKS FOR OCUK!", etc :D
I'm personally annoyed by them myself atm with the horrific trick of getting Vista pre-orders in - they stated they'd be shipped on the 13th of Jan, yet when the 12th came around, shock horror, MS said they couldn't ship until the 30th... this after MS "gave us permission to ship early". What a load of crap. If that's the way they treat their customers, I'll be avoiding them for a little while...
minor thread crapping here, but no 72 i thought u were going with the team extreem memory?
Wow that took me a long time to install everything:mrgreen: ,
Ya I just turned on the psu's back switch and the lights came on, it wouldn't let me power on completely, but the error message on the lcd poster thinggy 'CPU INIT' did help alot!
And yes I was going to get the team memory but it wasn't in stock when I went to buy it so I went for the g skill (same chips I think) just a few more pounds.:)
I better go to bed now I have got school:mrgreen:
unlucky mate, g. skill HZ kit by any chance?
its a nice kit, ill try push my Extreem as high as i can get it, and see what i can clock to:D
OK it's got a lot worse now!:surprised: I am really bad at all this lol, I can't seem to clear the cosmos. I have done it the correct way but the system just hangs and does not make any post! all connectors are in properly cpu is mounted properly. I get the error message 'CPU INIT' on the lcd poster, it does not flash, I get no beep codes.
This is just getting stupid now:angst:
Did u move the jumper b4 pressing the clear cmos button. ???. jumper is next to button. Normal position is with jumper to edge of mobo - In this position pressing the clear cmos button does nothing.
Correct procedure is
1) Turn of PC & unplug power
2) Move jumper - this enables button (u can leave it in this position , but it is easy to press clr cmos button instead of reset. :D
3) Press Button for around 10seconds.
4) Move jumper back (optional)
5) plug power back in
6) Cross fingers & fire up.
If above still gives issues remove power & remove battery(push at 1 side)
luck:)
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If above still gives issues remove power & remove battery(push at 1 side)
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Also I have noticed that when I power on it starts for about 10 secs then re starts, then after that it is fine.
All it does is hang and I can't reset it!
I have reset it a few times before and no problems.
ps. Have tried without; RAM (tried different slots as well)
and have just had 24 and 8 pin connected.
To make it clear the system just hangs no signal is seen, lcd poster normally go's like this on power on : vga bios, bios then time
Message is seen 'CPU INIT'
Tht's the same issue you started the thread with. Thought that was fixed when you remounted the cpu ??Quote:
Message is seen 'CPU INIT'
Yes it is but this time it does not flash. The cooler is mounted properly, I am sure, I have re-seated the cpu a few times too.
I have even removed everything including the cpu and powered on to reset it. After that I still get the same problem when I power on. It is strange because I managed to reset the cosmos
before when I had 'hanging'. It is very odd,I cannot reset the cmos:confused:
Just thought I would add that the RAM sticks are not getting hot at all (I can't feel any heat), the north bridge and cpu is getting hot. Does this mean that the RAM volts are too high? but does not explain why I can't reset CMOS.
?? you don't power on to reset it. power should be disconected.Quote:
I have even removed everything including the cpu and powered on to reset it.
What position is that jumper??
I have read the manual and have done the reset the proper way. It's just I have tried to reset everything another way by removing the cpu.
I have tried to clear the CMOS with the on board switch, I assure you I am doing it right, I have done it before and it was fine.
1)Have u tried using a single module i either of the 2 slots nerest the cpu ??
2) have you unplugged everything, flipped out the battery & pressed the clear cmos button. Try leaving the battery out for 10 inutes or so. if you boot go into bios load bios defaults save & exit. Then reboot again & change your vdimm to whatever your HZ needs.
Just to say thanks for all the help and your ideas:mrgreen: :bowdown:
Umm I have tried the first one but not the second, so I will give it a go.
And plus my m8 has a ds4 that I could try my comp bits in as mine may by a cmos error!
See if u can borrow a memory module from your mate & if u can boot with that.
It is not the memory, because I booted first time with it, and I didn't change any of the memory settings to something stupid.
But ya I will give it a go. What is strange is that about 10 secs after I power on the pc turns off on its own then restarts once the fans stop spinning. It does this every time :surprised:
But I am quite confident it will boot with the ds4.
Plus I had a feeling that this mobo was not quite right when I started things off (funny RAID conflicts ect), but at the time I just thought it was settling in or something, looks like another RMA for me.
Is normal on this mobo & bios, mine does exactly the same. It doesn't turn off it's checking info , it then revs up again & boots.Quote:
What is strange is that about 10 secs after I power on the pc turns off on its own then restarts once the fans stop spinning. It does this every time
It does this especially if u have been into bios & changed settings... or have just cleared cmos.:)
How odd so my mobo seems to be stuck in some sort of mobo suspended animation?
what happens ifg u just leave it a while instead of restarting / swithing off ??
It just keeps on going lol, I left it for about 3 hours and it did nothing. (hanging that is) if it is the mobo which I think it is should I RMA with scan or get a replacement from asus?
I have only every RMA'ed a psu before so...
cus I really want a working commando as it is such a super mobo to play with. And not having it is starting to depress me :lol: . OOO commando how I miss you, come back to me:O_o1:
U should get in touch with scan - their support section may be able to help u & will determine if rma is required.
Have u tried??Quote:
2) have you unplugged everything, flipped out the battery & pressed the clear cmos button. Try leaving the battery out for 10 inutes or so. if you boot go into bios load bios defaults save & exit. Then reboot again & change your vdimm to whatever your HZ needs
Yep, I will do it again just to make sure.:)
Nope it didn't work :( what do you mean ask scan if it is necessary? surly if I am to replace it they need to test it first?:)
If u haven't sorted uit get in touch with scan support. they may be able to suggest things from a distance b4 u need to return it.
I have just tried my m8's ds4 and it booted first time!:)
So that means the asus commando mobo is messed up! like I said the cmos:)
I have another question, why does windows not start as it is installed on my hard drives?
or do I need to wipe the disks and install windows again?:confused:
but the important thing is that it booted.
Have you taken the hard disk with Windows out of another sysetem and put it in the Commando build? If so it will have the wrong Chipset Drivers, LAN drivers, etc etc..
Always need to reformat and install again with a different MB - or have I misunderstood?
I hope to install OS on my Commando build tonight...
Um actuallt windows has booted but, as soon as I get into the desktop windows just sort of blocks me, windows does not freex but blocks my keybourd and mouse but things come up on screen eg.msn. A error comes up saying something about my drivers for the asus commando.
But windows wont let me delete the asus drivers or install the gigabyte ones.:(
You didnt do a fresh install when you built the pc?
It's ok I have sorted it.:)
Commando working now then?
No,no lol sorry for not being clear, in a bit of a rush.:) No the commando is not sorted:mad: but I was just having some probs with this ds4 but I sorted it:) . I am going to RMA the commando I think, because I cant get it to boot, even with resetting the cmos, removing the battery, moving the RAM and all of that:) , also all my hardware is fine because I booted first time on the ds4, so it had to be the cmos in the commando, unless....
:)
battery out and leave the cmos jumper shorted over night. Worth a go. It does sound broke though :(
Ya ok I will give it ago. Btw does this ever happen with cmos because is seems bizzare.Every thing powers on,all fans but no boot:mad:
Well I'm sure it isn't the answer to your problem, but something similar happen to me (not cmos) and it turned out to be the power supply........and I was so convinced it was the CPU after being overclocked for years with an average cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.72
How would it be my power supply, when I have all the other pc bits working fine in a ds4 ????? :confused:
Ah Checkmate.......I didn't know you tried EVERYTHING on a different MB.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.72
lolz:mrgreen: wp,yessss
On the commando have you tried accessing bios with all drives unplugged from the symtoms you describe it could be drives are just hanging.
so :-
Disconnect everything except memory, cpu & gfx.
It may be best to try with the board out of the case (to eliminate any shorting issues).
Try clearing bios as described above, Move jumper & use clear bios button.
put power back on & see if it posts, if it does:-
go into bios Load defaults (see last manu page) save & exit. This should clear any dodgy/corrupt settings. Enter bios again & enter settings u want.
If not repeat clear cmios but remove battery.
BTW with this intial probs with Commando, I'm not sure whether to get it or the P5B deluxe wifi.
Is the commando more future proof for quads cores, graphic cards etc in the future? as I have come unstuck twice before with early MBs one was KT7 and A7N8X, now wondering how old fashioned would the P5B be, in say a year's time.
It is a great time to upgrade in 2007 (and I need to), but so many "ifs".
I cannot think of anything that the Commando gives that the P5B Deluxe wifi does not (other then an extra PCI slot)
..and on the Asustek site the P5B deluxewifi has the same basic specs as P5B deluxe, but every one says get the wifi version even if you haven't a wifi modem? Something must be different?Quote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
Well there is one of us with problems on a Commando.... Mine has come up and run fine first switch on.... and others seem to be going OK. Have upgraded BIOS to 0702 (thanks Supershanks) installed basic OS and joined my domain last night... and so far so good. will continue to install and test and bed in over the next few days, but so far (everything crossed) so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by excalibur2
I was going to buy P5B but Commando should go to a much higher FSB if required, and I feel is P965 Rev 2, only time will tell, but I believe it is a better board.
In a case like this it's a bit like updating a new car model, for example a new astra. Old model or new ??Quote:
I cannot think of anything that the Commando gives that the P5B Deluxe wifi does not (other then an extra PCI slot)
What tipped the scale for me:
1) 8 phase EL-Capless power design - The same as the Striker. Means a far clearer CPU area plus more stable voltages.
2) 2nd pci-e slot enabling crossfire option.
3) Better on Board sound
4) rag tag of small extras which generally add up.
Source:
Asus Commando
At the end of the day i'd rather pay £17 extra & have the latest model. But to each his own:D
is spot on.:DQuote:
I was going to buy P5B but Commando should go to a much higher FSB if required, and I feel is P965 Rev 2, only time will tell, but I believe it is a better board.
How do you turn up the speed of the cpu fan manually without as in software?
The current Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro has a PWM controlled fan, so on the Commando the fan speed is controlled automatically and speeds up as required - as it is on many graphics cards now also.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.72
My other systems have CPU coolers that came with a speed control rotary variable resistor for mounting at front or back of case for manual control, or you can get separate fan controllers that you wire up all your fans too and control them as you require.
Did you manage to get to the bottom of this issue? I bought an ASUS COMMANDO motherboard from scan at the weekend and install a new Intel Duo processor and 2 GB memory and a new PCI-X graphic card. I am certain I have installed everything fine. A mate of mine donated me a new 500W power supply becuase my old 320W was only 20 pin and the COMMANDO is a 24 pin connection. Everythign looks goo, lights lit up on the motherboard and the rear LCD pannel displays "CPU INIT" in bluie ont he back - which i presume means that the CPU is initalised?? It shows this screen shot on the actual box so again i am assuming that this is not an error and that it is just for information. I have not rung scan yet either. When I push the power button nothing happens. The CPU fan spins for about 3 seconds then stops. I can also hear a small crackling noise like static coming from the PSU - so I am wondering if it is the PSU - even though the motherboard reset, shutdown and CMOS reset buttons all light up and the green LED ont he motherboard near the CMOS battery lights up too. The power supluy is set to 230V. What i am mostly dismayed at is that the motherboard manual does not give a description of what "CPU INIT" means nor any of the other potential messages - what is the point of having this LCD screen if you don't know what it is telling you??? Anyone???
Please can you tel me your final resolution to this issue - did you take your system into scan? was it the motherboard? HELP please?
p.s sorry it is a long POST.
1) What spec is your 500w psu does it conform to the minimum shown in the manual p2-34
check the label on the side of the unit.
you need at least (124+56+87) = 267/12 = 23A 12V
2) Try testing outside the case, if it dioes then chances are you had something shorting in the case, standoff in wrong position etc.,
If it doesn't it may be your psu.
luck:)
Well you can try;
1) Make sure the heatsink is properly sitting on the cpu, make sure the cpu is in its socket properly.
2) Make sure the cmos button is on shorted.
3) Make sure all compounds are connected properly eg. RAM, power cables ect...
4) Try and get hold on another psu, and try that.
5) Try RAM in different slots eg. one stick in furthest slot from mobo
6) Jump start the psu with something on load such as a fan or two
I think the mobo lcd poster thinggy always saies CPU INIT, when it hangs or is in stand-by.
How long does the psu fan spin for?
It sounds like your psu is broken if it makes a noice.
this should help.
And btw I have not sorted my problem I just RMA'ed the mobo
:)
I have to say I am generally rather happy with my ASUS Commando so far, though I have a problem with USB memory devices (I will post separately).
I must say that I am appalled at the ASUS Web site and their 'support'. Previously I have been an Abit motherboard user and I must say they are much better - and they provide regular updates that can actually be found and downloaded.
I bought the Commando because it appeared to be an 965 rev 2 board, and as the P5B is generally so well regarded (I nearly bought one but figured it would be surpassed), I hoped that the Commando would be an improvement on that... it is supposed to be, and hopefully will prove to be so. Maybe I should have waited for the ABiT AB9 QUAD GT only time will tell.
But I am very disappointed with the ASUS Support from their website - I have found downloading updates either very slow or impossible! And the situation regarding decoding the LCD Poster displays is ludicrous.
ASUS State: "The LCD Poster displays actual boot error messages instead of codes that other debug cards show. This unique feature allows you to easily find out which devices fail during the boot process, eliminating guesswork and allowing you to solve the problem immediately"
Well apparently not if there is no decoding table to refer to!
Ho Hum!
Every mobo has it's negatives and positives. It is a overclocking mobo and that is what is does, very well.:)
I do agree in the point about the lcd poster it is quite hard to work out what it is saying but it does help. I am sure there must be a 'de-coding' list around online. The commando seems to have trouble with the cmos and does get a bit toasty when overclocking, but I am sure it will all be sorted with updates. Only a few of us have had problems. I have not been scared away from the commando just because I had problems with it. I have been using a ds4 for the last 2 weeks and the commando is quite a lot better than it.
I have been running my Commando at stock for a couple of weeks to put it through plenty of thermal cycles and let it bed down.
Currently idle at 38c and 50c running Orthos & Memtests. Took it up to 300 FSB * 10 on sunday and ran Orthos for a couple of hours - rock solid and 53c. I tend to take things steady, but will be looking for 330-350 FSB and to be able to run that constantly.... as a working system.
With an occasional foray to more exotic speeds if this is possible.
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the help - i have (or believe) i have resolved the issue. The problem lied with the PSU. I removed the PSU and connected it to my old motherboard using the 20 pin connection, installed some memory, the AGP graphic card, keybrd and mouse and when i shorted the power switch pins it did the same thing - the CPU fan spun for 3 seconds and the PSU made a fiz sound but the PSU fan did not turn. So i connected up my old PSU to my old motherboard and did the same thing and it fired up straight away proving that the 500W PSU i got from my mate was a dud - we were both very suprised. Anyways I now have to buy a PSU from scan with a 24 pin connector which will see me up and running by tomorrow evening. I spoke to scan earlier in the day and they said the the "CPU INIT" does mean that the CPU is initalised and OK. Other than that they couldn't elaborate on the mysterious "debug with translation" that the Commando boasts - more like "debud with confusion" if you ask me.
Thanks again