Why should i not go AMD?

[squall-loire]

Yes, the Core2Duo will outperform any current AMD chip.

This does not make it the wise choice, as AMD have YET TO RELEASE their equivalent technology.

The smart thing to do would be to wait for AMDs next tech release, and decide on AMD then =P

[tigerboyce]

Or just get intel cheaper lol

[kalniel]

This does not make it the wise choice, as AMD have YET TO RELEASE their equivalent technology.

That's daft AMD released their equivalent technology before Core 2 Duo even came out - it was called the AMD X2 and it was the first true dual core desktop processor.

[moogle]

That's daft AMD released their equivalent technology before Core 2 Duo even came out - it was called the AMD X2 and it was the first true dual core desktop processor.

true, amd beat intel first round, their dual cores sucked - they just got a second go at it and made core 2 duo thats all. but right now the core 2 duo is the best option, even if its predecessor sucked,... hard.

[DanceswithUnix]

after am2 i guess socket F, but i agree, they are switching sockets like mad, and its really gay because then you have to end up upgrading all components to get the latest ones.

Socket AM2 is the first update to the AMD platform since S939 came out in June 2004. Socket F is the server equivalent, they can hardly bring out one without the other.

Next major socket is AM3 which is a few years away and will be compatible so no need to upgrade.

A new socket every few years is not my definition of "like mad".

I am of course ignoring the indeed fairly gay 4x4 platform, but so is everyone else so I feel justified in that

Much though I like the Core2 Duo CPU, I think Intel should be slapped for releasing something that wouldn't fit into motherboards purchased a matter of weeks before the launch despite having the same socket number of pins and name. But then they did that with Pentium D and the extremes as well so we can hardly be suprised.

[moogle]

Socket AM2 is the first update to the AMD platform since S939 came out in June 2004. Socket F is the server equivalent, they can hardly bring out one without the other.

Next major socket is AM3 which is a few years away and will be compatible so no need to upgrade.

A new socket every few years is not my definition of "like mad".

I am of course ignoring the indeed fairly gay 4x4 platform, but so is everyone else so I feel justified in that

Much though I like the Core2 Duo CPU, I think Intel should be slapped for releasing something that wouldn't fit into motherboards purchased a matter of weeks before the launch despite having the same socket number of pins and name. But then they did that with Pentium D and the extremes as well so we can hardly be suprised.

i agree 4x4 is gay, i wish amd would get their act up and start producing a new core instead of reinventing the x2's. ok socket 939 was introduced in 2004 but im pretty sure socket T (775) was in use during those times, and its still going! whic is good value for money if your board supports the new c2d's

[DanceswithUnix]

Socket T was indeed introduced around that time. They have kept the name and the number of pins, but electrically they have messed with it. Every major release of Intel CPU has required a new motherboard, despite the cpu "being S775".

In reality, Intel have had a new socket about every 6 months. You might be able to plug your old single core 2.8GHz P4 into your new shiny motherboard, but if you have an old motherboard and want to upgrade then you are stuffed.

In contrast my wife has an early S754 AMD machine. That motherboard can take any S754 CPU ever made, including I believe the mobile Turion ones (I think the Asus BIOS allows that). Same with my S939, though that was bought mid life so not so impressive.

I only tell people it is OK to buy Intel's S775 on the grounds that the core2 should be enough for them for enough years that they won't care. People on a tight budget I tell to get a Sempron on AM3, as it will do them for now and in a efw years time they can replace with CPU with the latest dual/quad core.

[moogle]

Socket T was indeed introduced around that time. They have kept the name and the number of pins, but electrically they have messed with it. Every major release of Intel CPU has required a new motherboard, despite the cpu "being S775".

In reality, Intel have had a new socket about every 6 months. You might be able to plug your old single core 2.8GHz P4 into your new shiny motherboard, but if you have an old motherboard and want to upgrade then you are stuffed.

In contrast my wife has an early S754 AMD machine. That motherboard can take any S754 CPU ever made, including I believe the mobile Turion ones (I think the Asus BIOS allows that). Same with my S939, though that was bought mid life so not so impressive.

I only tell people it is OK to buy Intel's S775 on the grounds that the core2 should be enough for them for enough years that they won't care. People on a tight budget I tell to get a Sempron on AM3, as it will do them for now and in a efw years time they can replace with CPU with the latest dual/quad core.

true, but if i want to take my socket 939 to ddr2, im stuffed. better to have a new mobo + old cpu than new mobo + new cpu.

[aidanjt]

moogle++

Intel does change the electrical charactoristics of their CPUs with pretty much each new CPU family, that is a certainty. You can't expect things to improve without revisions to old designs, however at least there is the occasional time you can get away with a BIOS upgrade, a complete change in socket means a forced CPU upgrade, and sometimes a ram upgrade too (where AMD is concerned).