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    Frogfoot basics for this Thursday

    Ok guys, since I'll be an A10 with the n00bs the rest of you will be flying Su25s. Now this will probably be the first time many of you will have flown it so I'll try to give you a brief overview of it so when you get the cockpit it won't be such a shock!

    Incase you're not sure, the Frogfoot is the Russian equivlent of the A10. It's not quite as capable as the A10 in the sense that it's not as manuverable, though it's a fair bit quicker. It can take similar amounts of punishment and can deal a fair amount out as well. However its biggest weakness is very, very small fuel tanks.

    When you get in the cockpit for the first time the biggest thing you'll notice is the lack of a HUD. It's there, since it provides an aiming reticule, though there's no flight information like altitude, waypoint, speed etc. All of this is on the analogue dials which you'll see dotted about. They're the same as the Su27/33 so you'll recognise most of them. Note that the weapon selector is also a panel rather than being on the HUD. Look down to the bottom left of the cockpit next to the panel which shows if the flaps are down, brakes extended etc and you'll see a diagram of the plane, looking head on at it. You'll see lights for the weapons. If it's lit up yellow, ordanace is on the wings. If there's a green light underneath then the weapon is armed and selected.

    The Frogfoot carries a fair amount of ordnance and it's hugely varied. You'll probably want to take along some unguided rockets and bombs, but also take a couple of guided missiles. Unlike the Maverick, this guided missiles are HUGE so you can only carry a couple.. well you can carry 4, though you'll be without ECM then. The guided missiles come in a few flavours though concentrate on taking the ML or MP varients. ML's guide using laser designation (similar to a Hellfire on an Apache) whereas the MP are passive radar homing. Use of the missiles is fairly similar.

    ML's - think of these as Mavericks. Press "o" to turn on the laser designator. a reticule will appear in the HUD. Use the usual keys to move the reticule over the target. Lock it up - fire. Keep the target lased until missile strike.

    MP's - Even easier. Fly towards the AAA/Sam site that's lighting you up on the RWR. Select MPs, press I, then press tab. The reticule will jump to the target location. Fire and forget.

    Bombs - same as the Su27/33

    Cannon - again, the same

    Rockets - same. Anything labeled as "S" in the payload screen is an unguided rocket - example, S25, S13 etc.

    ECM - same as ever, press E. You need a pod which carries the ECM gear on the plane. To see if it's turned on/off look to your right. There's a big green bulb which indicates its status.


    Navigation is pretty simple. Look down to the compass in nav (1) mode. You'll see a direction arrow on the compass. Turn till it points north, the range indicator will count down. Use the F10 key to help you as well.

    Go familiarise yourself with it, it's a shock to the system!

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    I'll be up for this Lowe - the missus is out Thursday and need a fix m8

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    I'll have a play in "the old dog" & familiarise tonight.

    I guess bombing is a chore too - do you have to come down almost vertical on the target?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [merlin]
    I'll have a play in "the old dog" & familiarise tonight.

    I guess bombing is a chore too - do you have to come down almost vertical on the target?
    Similar to the Mig/Su-27, you will get a green light when you get authorisation to drop, and it won't let you drop if your angle is too shallow or you're too low.

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    Looks like it could be a busy one then - 8 people!

    Dunno if my machine will be able to host 8. Anyone got an uber rig and fat pipe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowe
    Looks like it could be a busy one then - 8 people!

    Dunno if my machine will be able to host 8. Anyone got an uber rig and fat pipe?
    1mb blueyonder any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skii
    Similar to the Mig/Su-27, you will get a green light when you get authorisation to drop, and it won't let you drop if your angle is too shallow or you're too low.
    So that's a yes then?


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    Quote Originally Posted by [merlin]
    So that's a yes then?

    aye

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    Just been playing the mission.. the Frogfoot needs you to turn on the EOS system for some reason to let you drop bombs. Weird, but true. It also doesn't give you the CCIP like the Su27.. weird cos I could of sworn it does. Instead it shows the standard Su25 pipper, though it appears at the bottom of the screen and moves around. It'll make sense when you fly it.

    Oh.. forgot to mention there's a couple of LEDs on the HUD itself. The left hand side one is green. That tells you that the laser/bombing computer is on and active. The orange LED on the right hand side is the important one - that's the shoot cue

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    Just been flying the Froggie - it has the turning cirle of a cruise ship

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    Slow down then! Remember the Frogfoot is WAY quicker!

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    why are we flying the frogfoot? its evil. and boring. i say stick to fun aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz
    why are we flying the frogfoot? its evil. and boring. i say stick to fun aircraft.
    I think we're flying it as punishment for something we did wrong in past life.



    Anyhoo, i'll happily give anything a go just to get more air miles and experience, but, yup - it's definately the runt of the litter

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    well,if its like FB, then you gotta fly the dogs to appreciate the finers hounds

    Besides...youmight fall in love....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    well,if its like FB, then you gotta fly the dogs to appreciate the finers hounds

    Besides...youmight fall in love....

    watch out for a bi plane mixing it woth you boys...if I can get the I153 out of the hanger while no one sees you're in a for a shock
    If we see an IL in the air - you'll be the one in for the shock

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